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Re: Hackers uniting against Iran?


From: Timo Schoeler <timo.schoeler () riscworks net>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:12:22 +0200

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:22:34 -0400
Paul Hem <paulhem () paulhem com> wrote:

On 4/6/07 12:16 PM, "Timo Schoeler" <timo.schoeler () alice-dsl net>
wrote:

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:11:38 +0100
"James Rankin" <kz20fl () googlemail com> wrote:

I seem to remember Britain being in WWII almost from the start,
well before the Russians got dragged in by Adolf

Still I was only young at the time, I could be mistaken

the trigger was 'the US', which was in context 'the western allies';
while Stalin saw Hitler faking very early, the US (i.e., the Bank of
America -- with one of George W. Bush's grandfathers in the board of
directors) was still cooperating with Nazi Germany.

it's all in history books...


Timo, you're full of shit.

sez an american. oh, well...

The US (amongst others) came to the european continent on June
6th,
1944. At that time, the red army already conquered more than two
thirds of the area of nazi germany. The germans already had lost
the war.

Here's what wikipedia has on this.

as someone's mentioned before, 'the winner makes the history'. remember
1984.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Torch

" Operation Torch (initially called Operation Gymnast) was the
British-American invasion of French North Africa in World War II
during the North African Campaign, started November 8, 1942."

"The Soviet Union had pressed the United States and Britain to start
operations in Europe,

yes, and here you see that the US was fucking uninterested in saving
millions of people's (jews) lifes.

thanks for that point!

and open a second front to reduce the pressure
of German forces on the Russian troops. While the American commanders
favored Operation Sledgehammer, landing in Occupied Europe as soon as
possible, the British commanders believed that such a course would
end in disaster. An attack on French North Africa was proposed
instead, which would clear the Axis from North Africa, improve naval
control of the Mediterranean and prepare an invasion of Southern
Europe in 1943. American President Roosevelt suspected the African
operation would rule out an invasion of Europe in 1943 but agreed to
support Churchill."

The battle of Stalingrad  which was the turning point on the Eastern
Front went from August 21, 1942 through February 2, 1943.

:)

For you to hint that the battle of Europe was "already won" by the
Russians is bullshit!

no, it is not. look at the facts.

Back to my point.

The U.S. Wanted nothing to do with any European wars - we were
dragged into them.

while you were accepting millions of peoples death (see above) and AT
THE SAME TIME doing business (!) with Nazi Germany!

Now, we're hearing a lot of crap from people like
Timo, who know nothing about history, trying to tell us we aren't
handleing things the way you would like.

it's always nice to see US suckers freak out because they did not win
any war yet.

Tough shit! You sprung us out of our borders because of your
inability to handle your own problems, and 60 years later you hand us
a load of shit while at the same time you can't defend your own sea
lanes of trade from Iran, et al. Grow up!

defend what from Iran? is it a threat? NO!

US makes it a thread as it raises the need to be prepared for US
invasion. it's the same in South America, btw.

i'm so satisfied that this bubble (the US) is going to burst really
soon.

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