Full Disclosure mailing list archives
Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:56:46 -0500
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:40:47 +0530, Raj Mathur said:
I believe we have had this discussion before, but I'll iterate my beliefs in favour of allowing direct root access again:
- Key-based root logins are quite secure. I don't see any reason why key-based root login would be any less secure than permitting a user login followed by an sudo.
It's not the security of the login itself - it's the ability to create an audit trail of which userid performed an action. If you can find some other way to...
- With a little bit of configuration, it's easy to figure out which key was used to login to an account; the audit trail can be managed that way.
... like the above, then most of the issues can be worked around. The *problem* with "direct login to root" is that it's the very rare site that actually manages to implement it with proper audit trails. It's a variant on the old "If you have to ask how much, you can't afford it", just in this case "If you have to ask why they're bad, you're not qualified to do it right". (Also - note that if you consider the set of computers in the same administrative domain as a whole, your system is *STILL* "login as another user, then as root" - just that the first login is happening on another system. You're not doing a direct login to root when viewed from the context of the administrative domain as a whole.)
Attachment:
_bin
Description:
_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Current thread:
- [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Gianluca Giacometti (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Knud Erik Højgaard (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Paul Schmehl (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Xavier Beaudouin (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Eduardo Tongson (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Raj Mathur (Feb 02)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 02)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Q-Ball (Feb 04)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) James Matthews (Feb 04)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Paul Schmehl (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Tyop? (Feb 02)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) chedder1 (Feb 02)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Tyop? (Feb 02)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Knud Erik Højgaard (Feb 03)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Knud Erik Højgaard (Feb 01)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Stan Bubrouski (Feb 02)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Q-Ball (Feb 04)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Marcello Barnaba (Feb 05)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX) Siim Põder (Feb 07)
