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Re: mac trojan in-the-wild
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:18:04 +1300
reepex to me:
Yes, today, the average level of clue among Mac users is probably a shade higher than amongst Windows users,Is this a joke? The reason people switch to macs is because they cannot handle simple tasks. Isnt the main thing said by new mac users is 'it just works' meaning 'I couldnt figure out windows' . The main users of macs are liberal arts students and hippies .. and we all know the technical level of these people.
No, it's not a joke. First, a lot of very clueful security folk, CompSci academics and so on will "only" (or, at least, "only for my real work") use Macs. They may well just be heavy-duty-security-clueful enough to drag the average graphic artist, liberal arts, etc level above the Windows waterline. Second, in fact, I don't even care if it is badly wrong. I'm happy to concede to the Mac fanboyz that their buddies may, in fact, have a slight edge in the security clue arena _across the whole population of Mac users_. I will quickly point out things just like what you said if they seriously try to claim they have a significant edge, but my point still holds up allowing them what they perceive as the "but we're smarter" high-ground. The point is, as I thought I was making clear, even if it's true it doesn't actually help them because we are still talking about two seriously overlapping _population distributions_ (but if they continue to insist it does, all they do is show their "debate" is driven by ideology rather than facts and logic...). You've just seen the redoubtable Dr Neal K messing this up big time, so even the seriously security clueful are not necessarily on top of this. Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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