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Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach?
From: "E. Prom" <e3prom () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:26:08 +0100
2010/1/26 Rohit Patnaik <quanticle () gmail com>:
A few phrases and "surprising" patterns are a lot more suspicious than a hard drive full of zeroes, especially if there's evidence that other data has been overwritten or erased. If you present a hard drive full of zeroes or random numbers, there's nothing to charge you with. If most of your data is random gibberish but there are a few telling phrases here and there, then there might be enough for the prosecution to bring charges, even if they aren't able to get a conviction. [snip]
The point is that they never get a hard-drive full of zeroes or random numbers, but a hard-drive that have pieces of other data under the zeroes or random numbers. That's why programs like "wipe" fills more than 20 times the hard-drive with data. But filling 20 times a whole disk can be very, very long, expecially if it's a 2TB USB drive. A "quick" wipe filling a drive only 4 times, is often enouth, but... If the police or spies look for determined words or sentences (presumed not encryptered), at an unknown point on an unknown layer of the disk, it will be much easier for them to find it if the rest was random data (or video or whatever) than if it was random text that can have a meaning when looking with a program, but not in front of a Court. I don't find Bipin's idea so bad, but I'm not sure it adds significant security. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach?, (continued)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 27)
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- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? T Biehn (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Christian Sciberras (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? T Biehn (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Michael Holstein (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Thor (Hammer of God) (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Rohit Patnaik (Jan 27)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? T Biehn (Jan 26)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? E. Prom (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Thor (Hammer of God) (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Rohit Patnaik (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Tracy Reed (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? E. Prom (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Michael Holstein (Jan 26)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Christian Sciberras (Jan 26)
