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Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities
From: Justin Klein Keane <justin () madirish net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:22:13 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, as much as I hate to feed the trolls perhaps I should provide some more context for my evaluation of NuralStorm webmail. The project is indeed quite aged, so much so that you are required to monkey with the default PHP register globals settings to get it to run (which should tip anyone interested in the project off that it might not be safe). Unfortunately I actually came across the project because I found it as a service offering from a legitimate company. I was careful to mention the age explicitly in my advisory because I am aware that it isn't a recent project and thus is pretty easy pickings for any dedicated security researcher. Amazingly though, in the eight years since the project has been released there have only been a couple security vulnerabilities disclosed (notably CVE-2006-5386), which might lead a casual observer to conclude that the project was safe for use. I think NuralStorm serves as a great example of the types of false metrics that can sometimes be used to justify security. Nevertheless, it wasn't something I just picked out of the trash bin or dug up on random free software download archives - NuralStorm is actively deployed, unpatched, on the internet, and thus my disclosure was meant to warn folks who might have the project in use, as it is immensely exploitable and no longer under any sort of active development. Unfortunately I won't be able to work with the developers to try and update and secure this project, which should ultimately be the goal of open source security research. Justin C. Klein Keane http://www.MadIrish.net The digital signature on this message can be confirmed using the public key at http://www.madirish.net/gpgkey On 07/15/2010 05:44 AM, Pavel Kankovsky wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, musnt live wrote:Performing security research and disclosure of projects over 8 years old is stupid [...]If people spent more time studying mistakes made 8 years ago (or even more than 50 years ago (*)) they would not repeat them today as often as they do. (*) In-band signalling in telephone networks.
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- NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities Justin C. Klein Keane (Jul 12)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities musnt live (Jul 12)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities Pavel Kankovsky (Jul 15)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities musnt live (Jul 15)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities Christoph Gruber (Jul 15)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities Justin Klein Keane (Jul 15)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities musnt live (Jul 15)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities Pavel Kankovsky (Jul 15)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 15)
- In-band signalling (was: Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities) Pavel Kankovsky (Jul 17)
- Re: In-band signalling (was: Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities) Dan Kaminsky (Jul 17)
- Re: In-band signalling (was: Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities) coderman (Jul 17)
- Re: In-band signalling (was: Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities) Pavel Kankovsky (Jul 24)
- Re: NuralStorm Webmail Multiple Vulnerabilities musnt live (Jul 12)