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Re: Gomez eats the weak
From: ichib0d crane <themadichib0d () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 09:00:11 -0700
lol someone who thinks he is original because he is stating things that pretty much everyone knows, or at least traces of which may be true enough to be known. Of course no one but your peers give a crap about what you do, guess what? No one but those in the immediate peer group of an architect or a subway employee cares about what they do either. Of course some moonlight as blackhats, guess what? Some 'anti-man' blackhats daylight as paper pushers. Some flip your burgers and get you your star bucks, so what? Is there some mystical enlightenment into this realization? Of course there are "unknown heroes" patching the vulns, guess what? That's their job. *insert everyone's job is their job comparison here* Of course the government lures the brightest minds to work for them and develop exploits for *insert cause here*. Ever BEEN to the CIA or NSA website? THEY ADMIT IT. Quite frankly their methods are at least far better than say China just doing open funding of various groups without any real hold other then a pay check. At least with the US government ya gotta pass background checks(or they are at least aware of it) and get security clearances. Of course most pen-tester's post-exploitation skills suck. That is simple deduction based upon their job description: they are meant to test the security, response level, and risk to a network and not to integrate into the system completely cloaked without a trace. It's simply not that relevant of a skill and quite frankly it is sad but true that such pathetic methods are simply good enough, they dont NEED to be better. Any serious attacker knows this and works hard to build tools that pwn the post-exploit techniques of pentesters, which isn't very hard either, ya just gotta use common sense and know some code. Valdis is right, you must be new here if you think that stating obvious facts make you seem smart. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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