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Re: Question about Viruses
From: "Dr. Neal Krawetz" <hf () hackerfactor com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:19:07 -0600 (MDT)
On Fri Jul 7 09:11:01 2006, Dude VanWinkle wrote:
Has anyone heard of a virus masquerading as another virus in order to avoid detection. Well you wouldnt be avoiding detection per se, just avoiding correct identification. How hard would it be to throw a signature for, let say troj_stargpag.qy in your app that was really a (insert favorite/least favorite virus here) -JP
Hi JP,
1. Has anyone heard of this?
Only in theory, but not in practice.
2. Is it easy to do?
Yes. Copying a signature is trivial. Most AV just look for a set of bytes.
Set "char *Sig={byte,byte,byte...};" and you'll trigger it.
3. Why would you want to do this?
As a virus writer, you know that most AV systems are single threaded.
If you plant a ton of signatures that take time to clean, then you can be
sure the AV won't be looking for you while it is busy cleaning stuff.
I don't know how some AV systems handle multiple/conflicting signatures.
If a single file tests postive for a bunch of different viruses, what
would happen? (I think Norton takes a "first come" approach.)
I also don't know if they continue checking after cleaning the first
virus. If they don't, then plant a fake "easy clean" virus signature
on yourself to avoid a more complicated detection.
NOTE: This is not development advice! This is "know your enemy" and
"think like your opponent".
-Neal
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Neal Krawetz, Ph.D.
Hacker Factor Solutions
http://www.hackerfactor.com/
Author of "Introduction to Network Security" (Charles River Media, 2006)
http://www.charlesriver.com/Books/BookDetail.aspx?productID=126130
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