Re: Tweet This: I Don't Care

[Donal <irldexter () gmail com>]

"other mecahnisms to achieve its useful functionality"

Show me other examples of the human-centric-social-grouping neural net
then please?

Email groups/distribution lists <negative>
IRC <negative>
IM <negative>
Blogs <negative>
Phone/teleconf <negative>
Torrent for comms <maybe>
End System Multicast <maybe>

You're missing the novelty and focussing on the bits you know and
hate... no one is saying Twitter will achieve world peace... but you
guys can't see the digital forest from the digital trees.

Donal

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nick FitzGerald
<nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:
> DC to me:
>
> > > ...I realized another thing I really dislike about Twitter _and_ that I
> > > suspect is a major part of its attraction for a certain (rather large)
> > > portion of its users, and it really is about "shouting into the
> > > darkness".  I believe that a lot of Twitter's (sub-conscious) attraction
> > > to a lot of its users (not all) is that it caters perfectly to the
> > > personality type that conspicuously and VERY LOUDLY shout into their cell
> > > phones in public places.
> >
> > I'm wondering what your basis for this belief is?  In what sense do
> > you think Twitter caters to the personality that shouts very loudly
> > into a cellphone in public places?  I don't really see the connection;
> > people who post to Twitter are only going to be heard by people who
> > explicitly listen to ("follow") them, not by everyone who happens to
> > be standing nearby.
>
> You read the article I linked to about the hopeful Cisco employee?
>
> He was obviously shouting in the darkness _AND_ unaware that that was
> what he was doing.
>
> Sure, he _could_ have set his tweeting "private" so only those he agreed
> to see his emanations could, BUT HE HAD NOT.
>
> On Twitter he was just like all those loud, stupid people you hear
> shouting into their cell phones in public places all round the world (and
> doubly so in the US, it seems).
>
> > > _They_ are unawre of this, just as they are unaware that they are shouting
> > > into their cell phones.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you're suggesting that people are unaware of?  I
> > doubt that many people who post to Twitter are unaware that anyone on
> > the net can read what they post; that's what Twitter is for, after
> > all.
>
> And just while (some) cell phone shouters may not be unaware that they
> are broadcasting themselves whereever they are, they continue apparently
> unaware of the possible consequences.
>
> I don't actually mind if people are this stupid, but I question the
> propriety of _enabling_ them to expose themselves...
>
> > > Just because someone (older
> > > than you) says "that's not a good thing/idea because [something I know
> > > from the past]" does not make them a curmudgeon.
> >
> > I have no idea whether or not you're older than me.  :)  I would put
> > the odds at about 50/50.  And I have even less idea of the age of
> > anyone else on this list.  And just to round out my ignorance, I'm not
> > sure what corresponds to "[something I know from the past]" in your
> > dislike of Twitter.  What past thing that I may have overlooked says
> > that Twitter is probably not a good thing/idea?
>
> Hopefully the above answers that more completely for you.
>
> I don't think that Twitter is totally useless, but it is almost certainly
> bordering on totally unnecessary as there are/have been other mecahnisms
> to achieve its useful functionality that suffer fewer/none of its
> undesirable features.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nick FitzGerald
>
>
>
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move
in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein

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