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Re: Family tech support


From: "David Lodge" <dave () cirt net>
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:08:40 -0000

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:02:49 -0000, Nick FitzGerald  
<nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:
First, and I'm no MS apologist, the problem set you describe has
usually been avoidable _if_ the IT folk at said enterprise actually do
the job, read the fine manuals and roll out the new version with
policies enforcing the "use format X" option (or even just push such
policies as part of their standard environment management stuff.

Ah; you've never met consultants or marketeers then :-)

Second -- and much bigger -- is that while it can be a PitA to Email
the sender back and explain how to "Save as... and choose the 'correct'
file format" that is rather different than the situation where the OOO
user sent a Word-capable format document that does not open properly,
or that does, but is clearly seriously munged or quickly becomes that
way after you, say, decide that there needs to be a comma after that
word in the opening sentence.

And, that's the old reason why the word format should be killed for data  
exchange: nobody knows it, not even Microsoft. Use ODT (not ooxml, as not  
even Word can write it according to the spec).

My "complaints" with OOO are not that it does not (natively) do MS
formats, but that it is incomprehensibly buggy in _all_ its format-
handling capabilities.

And this is where I have the problem with your argument: I have multiple  
files that I've written on my server that go back to April 2001, when it  
was StarOffice 5, and I can read them all exactly as they were when I  
wrote them; 5 different computers ago and using a different Operating  
System (IIRC it was on SuSE 7). The only time I've ever had a problem with  
OOo reading files is generally due to badly mangled word docs. These are  
also not trivial docs: they have embedded objects, images, layout change  
and a host of styles. I wonder whether this is a YMMV situation.
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