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Re: legality of sacrificial host to prosecute [was RE: cyber copsting ]
From: David.S.Endler () usa xerox com (Endler, David S)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:26:23 -0400
Here is a helpful message from John Nicholson, someone who actually has law
experience:-)
-dave
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From: JohnNicholson () aol com [SMTP:JohnNicholson () aol com]
To: David.S.Endler () usa xerox com
Subject: Re: IDS: legality of sacrificial host to prosecute [was RE:
cyber copsting ]
What sources or experiences are you pulling from to glean this information?
My law degree and common sense (not, of course, to say that the law _always_ follows common sense. ;-) ). First, and foremost, entrapment is a defense, not a crime in and of itself. When a person is being prosecuted for a crime, the defendant can claim entrapment and attempt to avoid being found guilty. In order to establish entrapment, the defendant has the burden of proving either that he or she would not have committed the crime but for the undue persuasion or fraud of the government agent, or that the encouragement was such that it created a risk that persons not inclined to commit the crime would commit it, depending on the jurisdiction. I have a house. In my house I have an alarm system. I have motion detectors in the places where someone might be more likely to break in. Is it entrapment if someone opens a window and comes in and gets caught by the police because my motion detector set off the alarm? No, because I have not created a situation in which the would-be thief was forced or deluded (by me) into committing the crime. Alternatively, (and maybe more accurately) you've seen that most jewelry stores take their goods out of their window displays at night. Say a jewelry store decides that this looks bad, and wants to leave jewelry in the window, but doesn't want to risk the valuable real stuff. So, they put cheap costume jewelry in the window. When someone breaks in and steals the fake jewelry, is the jewelry store guilty of entrapment for displaying such nice looking fake jewelry and tempting the thief into breaking in? No, again because the jewelry has not done anything to force the thief into breaking in. A honey pot is an area of your network that you set up so that if someone is going to break in, they break in where you are ready for them. This is not entrapment, and it's not a crime. You are simply recognizing that there are vulnerabilities in your network and there are people out there who are trying to exploit them, and so you are trying to minimize the damage and maximize the chance that you will be able to catch the "thief". I'm not suggesting that you go out into some hacker chat room and post the techniques for breaking into your system then dare anyone to do it. You probably wouldn't be able to prosecute in that case. But your system is still private property. If someone breaks in, they are committing a crime and you're not aiding and abetting the crime just because you took steps to mitigate the damage from a break in. Now, extending the law of property to the cyber realm, just as you are not allowed to booby trap your house, you might be liable if you rigged up a system that could fry an intruder's PC. But, to claim it, the intruder would have to come forward and say, "While I was hacking into this system, the system set off a booby trap and fried my PC." That's still a tough argument to make for the hacker. Hope this helps clarify the issue. John
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