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Re: RE: implications of recent legal trends
From: dugsong () monkey org (Dug Song)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:44:54 -0400 (EDT)
Archive: http://msgs.securepoint.com/ids FAQ: http://www.ticm.com/kb/faq/idsfaq.html IDS: http://www-rnks.informatik.tu-cottbus.de/~sobirey/ids.html UNSUBSCRIBE: email "unsubscribe ids" to majordomo () uow edu au On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Mila, Brian D wrote:
Cyber Patrol was copyrighted with express limitations against decompilation and reverse-engineering, which is what was used to expose the secret list of blocked sites from the Cyber Patrol program. However, this doesn't apply to fragrouter, whisker, etc., that only supply input which the program wasn't designed to handle.
many companies have 'vow of silence' clauses in their licenses as well, preventing publication of any review of their product without prior written permission. we ran into this problem withmost of the big IDS vendors, who did not grant us such permission when we sought to publish our initial nidsbench results (even with a half year of grace). such licensing schemes force researchers to either kludge around with datasets provided by third parties (as we did for the Citrix ICA crack), publish demonstration code for actual testing by the public (as we did for the recent FTP PASV/PORT firewall penetration technique), or publish poor research with inconclusive results (as we did with nidsbench). without access to systems for testing, and permission to publish the results of those tests, security research treads a fine line, or is forced underground. it's bad enough already, and ill-conceived legislation like UCITA only promises to make things worse. -d. http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/
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- Re: implications of recent legal trends JohnNicholson () aol com (Apr 18)
- Re: implications of recent legal trends bofh (Apr 18)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: implications of recent legal trends Mila, Brian D (Apr 18)
- Re: RE: implications of recent legal trends Greg Shipley (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: implications of recent legal trends Shafik Yaghmour (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: implications of recent legal trends Dug Song (Apr 19)
- Re: implications of recent legal trends Stuart Staniford-Chen (Apr 20)
- SANS Parliament Hill 2000 > Welcome to SANS Parliament Hill 2000 Guy Bruneau (Apr 21)
