Re: RE: Info needed to compare Axent ITA and ISS RealSecure

[mjr () fraggle nfr net (Marcus J. Ranum)]

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Mark Renfer <mri () netsec ch> writes in response to some
 marketing guy from Axent who claims:
]> Axent has been in the business of IDS longer than any commercial

> Well, our product SPECTER has been on the international market for
> more than three years now, and it _is_ a commercial product. But I am

        Bill Hancock was selling some kind of VMS-oid IDS
back in the early days of Network-1 (this would be ~1992 or
so) and Steve Smaha's Haystack was selling Stalker around the
same time. I dunno if Bill reads the list or would be willing
to comment on any other commercial offerings that we on the
market back then..

        Saying "We were the first IDS on the market" is a
good way for a lot of vendors (ahem!) to show exactly what
johnny-come-latelies they _really_ are. ;)

mjr.