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Re: Detecting exploits/shellcode
From: mjr () nfr net (Marcus J. Ranum)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:03:39 -0400
Archive: http://msgs.securepoint.com/ids FAQ: http://www.ticm.com/kb/faq/idsfaq.html IDS: http://www-rnks.informatik.tu-cottbus.de/~sobirey/ids.html UNSUBSCRIBE: email "unsubscribe ids" to majordomo () uow edu au Jonas Eriksson wrote:
Is it possible to detect buffer-overflow exploits beeing sent over the network, execpt for having a database of shellcode?
The straightforward way (looking for strings) is pretty limited, but it's not impossible to detect buffer overflows. For example, NFR does it. ;) The way we do it is by protocol analysis - we monitor the complete protocol under inspection, so we know when/where buffers of unusual sizes make sense. For example, large buffers make sense in SMTP DATA but not in RCPT To:. As far as I know, we've got the only IDS engine that allows detailed enough analysis to do this kind of detection. For sure, you can't do it just by looking for strings. ;) We knew that years ago but everyone else only just now seems to be figuring it out. ;) mjr. ----- Marcus J. Ranum Chief Technology Officer, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. Work: http://www.nfr.net Personal: http://pubweb.nfr.net/~mjr
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