Re: Zen Masters was Re: a novice question. -reply

[Mark.Teicher () predictive com (Mark.Teicher () predictive com)]

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OK, my first exposure to a computer was in 1972, a PDP-8, I have been 
working with computers ever since.  I owned a few personal computers prior 
them being ever called personal computers.  Well, does a VAX 11780 count 
as a personal computer running RSTE??  In 1976, I bought one of those 
Apple ][ with a whopping 16k of memory and a tape player to save and load 
data from plus 300 baud modem connecting to something called THE SOURCE. 

Commodores, Amigas, IBM, Eagle, IBM oh my. (sing to the theme of Lions,and 
Tigers, oh my..:)

Routers that were really bridges but were called Brouters, Worked for a 
company Ken Olsen founded who then stated  the following "Ethernet will 
never be commercially successful"   Security at the time was on the 
forefront of people's minds versus being secondary to availability.

So all in all, nothing has changed, except the players and the field. 

/mht

"Carl Burney" <cburney () dps state ut us>
03/28/00 10:41 AM

 
        To:     <JohnNicholson () aol com>, <Mark.Teicher () predictive com>
        cc:     <Valerie.Blanchard () predictive com>, <CrumrineGL () state gov>, 
<ids () uow edu au>
        Subject:        Zen Masters was Re: IDS: a novice question. -reply

I've been working in computer security since the mid-80's, and I've only 
met one self-proclaimed security guru.  He was a fellow consultant with 
Axent.  He defined a guru as: General Understanding, Relatively Useless. 
He was.

(Keep monitoring this mailing list, I think it will be readily evident who 
some of the security real experts are.)

clb

JohnNicholson () aol com
03/28/00 08:43 AM

        To:     Mark.Teicher () predictive com
        cc:     ids () uow edu au
        Subject:        Re: IDS: a novice question. -reply

In a message dated 3/28/2000 11:31:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Mark.Teicher () predictive com writes:

> The other question is what is the definition of a "Security guru"  I
tend
>  to see that word used but haven't met many of them... Can you provide a
>  list of for those of us who aspire to become one can somehow pick the
>  brains of a security guru  ??:) (Tongue in cheek )

It's kinda like the definition of a zen master.  No one who is actually a
master would call themselves a master, because only the true masters
understand and appreciate how much they don't know.

John