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Re: IIS web server hacked..any tips?


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:08:50 -0500

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:44:34 EST, "cta () hcsin net" said:

Just to add some sage adviceĀ… if you really want to ensure that the 
contents of a suspected compromised machine's virtual memory, as well as 
its hard drive are intact then I would NOT "pull the plug" i.e., 
disconnect from network. An attacker with half a brain can easily load a 
watchdog program that automatically erases memory,

What percentage of attackers have half a brain? ;)

Yes, one *can* approach every single incident worrying that the attacker has
read things like Thompson's "On Trusting Trust", and possibly re-flashed your
system BIOS/microcode, and may actively be running a MITM attack at your ISP
so when you download a new BIOS, you get handed another trojaned BIOS.

But then, what % of the time do you have a uberhacker posing as a warez kiddie
using your site to store pirated DVD images of movies? For that matter, have
you performed steganographic analysis of those "movies" to make sure they
aren't *REALLY* cleverly disguised rootkits?

Yes, *IF* you have reason to suspect that your attacker is smarter than the
average bear^Wscript kiddie, you may want to come up with a better way to cut
them off the network than pulling the cable.  But first convince yourself that
it isn't Yet Another Script Kiddie - you need to finish off this incident before
the next one arrives.

(If you're *really* tech-savvy, and the suspect machine has an ieee1394
port, you can have your cake and eat it too - use a "field-modified" iPod to
collect the evidence nice and fast without the hacker's knowledge, and THEN
pull the plug and proceed with the forensics. ;)

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