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RE: TCP port 5000 syn increasing


From: Steven Trewick <STrewick () joplings co uk>
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:08:48 +0100



That begs the question if it isn't becoming useless nowadays to count
port scans. 

IMHO it has *never* been sufficient to simply count and analyse probes
by port.  It is simply not possible to identify network traffic in this 
way.  A probe on tcp 139 could be a worm, a misconfigured XP box, a 
sKiddie running nmap, frankly it cold be anything.

Perhaps we should focus instead on catching the worms and provide payload,

or payload hashes. 

Yes, an excellent idea, if I see unusual tcp probes at my borders, I 
usually at least hook up a quick netcat listener to see if anything 
appears, obviously UDP traffic can be logged straight off the wire.

This is really a minimum of info to collect (and its still an awful 
lot).  Counting probes will give you nothing but largely meaningless 
numbers.


Otherwise, how would you  pick up the  new strain of SQL slammer amongst 
all the existing SQL port scans?

You wouldn't.  Because you simply wouldn't know what you were 
looking at. 

The ability to say "12.53 % of unsolicited traffic at my network 
border is directed at tcp port 25" tells you absolutely nothing 
until you know why that traffic is arriving, and what the 
traffic contains.

Port 25 for instance could be spam, could be a sendmail exploit,
could be a misconfigured mail server somewhere, could be legit
mail, could be a worm using a sendmail exploit to spread (and 
send spam, blended threat, see ?)


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