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RE: Localhost packets on WAN
From: "James C Slora Jr" <Jim.Slora () phra com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:32:00 -0400
Please offer some *plausible* alternate explanation. The Blaster blowback precisely explains every detail of traffic like this that I have seen directly or heard reported by others. Do you possess some additional evidence that contradicts it? Do you have a simpler explanation that adequately explains the evidence?
David Nesting listed some plausible scenarios. I don't know what it is. But it is simple to prove what it is *not* with the evidence already provided. Blaster blowback is directed at the machine that generated the traffic, and occurs on the LAN of the infected host. If some miracle of misconfiguration guided a 127.0.0.1-destined packet out the gateway onto the upstream network, what upstream device would answer a SYN to 127.0.0.1 that did not originate from its own interface? The simplest explanation often tends to be correct, but not when the facts clearly contradict it. On my own traffic, I have additional evidence that it is not Blaster blowback. The source MAC address said the traffic was coming from my upstream's Cisco router. One day after my upstream stopped the traffic at my request, it has reappeared. More reason for suspicion, and Blaster still doesn't explain it. I took great pains to make absolutely sure there was no local stimulus at all - I only answered ARPs and otherwise kept silent while sniffing. Sure enough the 127.0.0.1 traffic was completely unsolicited. David's scenarios could apply if someone else was spoofing my address or NATing traffic to me. But again, that is speculation - there is not enough data to prove what it is, and the proof is all upstream of my network so I will not have access to it. If you want plausible speculation, I'd say someone might have compromised the upstream router, changed ACLs and set up NATing to hide the source of hostile probes from some other compromised machines downstream of the router. Odd repetitions in the target ports of the traffic could indicate something more complex.
Current thread:
- Localhost packets on WAN Kirby Angell (Sep 29)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN James C Slora Jr (Sep 30)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN David Gillett (Sep 30)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN James C Slora Jr (Sep 30)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN spainsecurity-s.navarro (Sep 30)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN David Gillett (Sep 30)
- Re: Localhost packets on WAN Frank Knobbe (Sep 30)
- Re: Localhost packets on WAN Kirby Angell (Sep 30)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN NESTING, DAVID M (SBCSI) (Sep 30)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN Frank Knobbe (Sep 30)
- RE: Localhost packets on WAN James C Slora Jr (Sep 30)
