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Re: DoS attack... what to do?
From: Faisal Khan <faisal () netxs com pk>
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 01:57:30 +0500
Once DoS/DDoS attacks start, there is very little you can do to mitigate them without the proper perimeter mitigation defense systems in place (either by yourself - if the situation warrants, or by your service provider).
Speaking from extensive experience, short-term measure such as by increasing the server horsepower, bandwidth connectivity, etc. is just that - short term.
One of the most powerful devices we've seen working for port 80 (or any other port, but only protects one port so far) attempts is the Foundry Networks ServerIron 450 (also the ServerIron 400/800/850). It has something called the Transaction Rate Limiting. Do read up on it - its perhaps one unique embedded methodology in Foundry equipment for thwarting off DoS/DDoS attacks.
Check with your ISP if they offer DoS/DDoS mitigation equipment. Some names that come mind are Foundry (already mentioned - though it should not specifically be considered an a DDoS/DoS mitigation tool per se), Top Layer (their IPS 100 is economically priced), Riverhead Networks (now part of Cisco Systems), Arbor Networks, Mazu Networks and Captus Networks and even Juniper Networks/Netscreen Firewalls.
An excellent source for DoS/DDoS attacks is: http://staff.washington.edu/dittrich/misc/ddos/
One (expensive) option is the use of CDNs (Content Delivery Networks), Speedera and Akamai being at the forefront.
With all of such devices out there, you really have to be prepared that packet choking does not happen on your inbound connection. Its very easy to saturate a 100Mbps connection. GigE will help, but is expensive. Secondly - do play close attention to the setup rates. When you have something between 4,000-10,000 setups per second, the lower end devices will sort of approach their limits --- fast (they can only maintain so many open-connections).
When you hit setup rates like 50,000-75,000 per second, only the high-end devices would be able to mitigate the in-flow.
Needless to say, your mileage may vary, but I hope the DDoS attack stops. They are a nasty thing to deal with.
Faisal At 12:41 AM 1/5/2005, Nigel Kukard wrote:
Hi Guys, Here is the situation...I have a dedicated server at ISP X, about 1 week after I signed up for the service I received a DoS attack against my DNS service... the attack came from over 10,000 IP addresses and tried to resolve the following domain names...leet.nexhost.org ns1.nexhost.org ns2.nexhost.org floop.m33pm33p.info irc.k1hosting.net b0tn3t.elite-coders.orgI thought i would be clever and changed root.cache on my named service to resolve all dns queries to 127.0.0.1, this seems to of worked for about 1hr. Next I get even more attacks on port 5556 which I don't even use and basically by default drop everything to that port.I have sent off abuse reports for over 10,000 IP's, grouping them by ISP and sending 1 email per ISP.....What to do? I've got a constant 200Kbps of traffic, and its kinda bugging me...Any help would greatly be appreciated. (btw, netsky.V uses port 5556) Regards Nigel Kukard
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Current thread:
- DoS attack... what to do? Nigel Kukard (Jan 04)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? falcon (Jan 04)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Faisal Khan (Jan 04)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Mark C (Jan 04)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Bernie Cosell (Jan 04)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Jose Nazario (Jan 05)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Bernie Cosell (Jan 04)
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- RE: DoS attack... what to do? Shaffer, Bruce (Jan 04)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Steve Friedl (Jan 04)
- RE: DoS attack... what to do? Craig Skelton (Jan 05)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Alvin Oga (Jan 05)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 07)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Paul Laudanski (Jan 05)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? easternerd (Jan 13)
- Re: DoS attack... what to do? Steve Friedl (Jan 04)