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Re: strange software > winsupdater.exe
From: k levinson <levinson_k () yahoo com>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:33 -0800 (PST)
You're both right, sort of. File names are not totally useless, but one has to be careful and understand the caveats. Using file names, you can more or less confirm that a file is suspicious, but you cannot confirm whether a file is legitimate. If google doesn't find anything, or everything it finds is bad, that's not good. But if google or any other web site does find legitimate files with that name, that is inconclusive. Also, looking at file names does not reliably identify what the malware is, what variant, what it may have done to your system, and how to remove it. Far more useful and informative is submitting the file to a place such as www.virustotal.com for instant analysis, and for simultaneously submitting new samples to multiple AV vendors. If you know the file name, I feel this should be done before searching google or posting here. People posting file names here should probably also be posting 1) the directory path the file was found in, in case a legitimate file name [e.g. svchost.exe] is found in a nonstandard folder name. I would also suggest such people also 2) post the results of a google search and 3) results of analysis via one or more antivirus programs, such as via www.virustotal.com Now, if someone was to argue that in the time it took you to do a google search, you could have more accurately identified the malware by using one or more AV scanners, that could be a true statement. Or if someone was to say that using file names incorrectly presents a danger that a junior tech could look up "svchost.exe" and find that it is legitimate, or that someone could decide just to delete a bad file and not realize that passwords have been logged or a second service undeletes the first deleted file, I might agree. Just deleting malware [or reformatting it away] without accurately identifying it, submitting it and understanding it can be very bad for your security. regards, Karl
-----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jeremy () angelar com]
Actually, I'd say [filenames are] fairly useful, if
you plug them
into google. Sites like iamnotageek.com have pretty
good
information repositories on what is legitimate and
what is not. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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