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From: David Farber <farber () central cis upenn edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 09:52:32 -0500
From: boldt () emile math ucsb edu (Axel Boldt)
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Subject: The Internet Advertiser's Blacklist
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THE INTERNET ADVERTISER'S BLACKLIST
* 1. What is this?
* 2. Who gets included?
* 3. What is the philosophy behind it?
* 4. What can I do with it?
* 5. What if I wanted to punish YOU?
* 6. What other blacklists are out there?
* 7. How can I help?
* 8. The Blacklist in itself.
1. What is this?
This is the Internet Advertiser's Blacklist. It is intended to curb
inappropriate advertising on usenet newsgroups and via junk e-mail. It
works by describing offenders and their offensive behavior, expecting
that people who read it will punish the offenders in one way or
another.
The list is posted regularly to several newsgroups and the most recent
version is always available over the WWW as
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/blacklist.html.
2. Who gets included?
Everyone who is pointed out to me for sending out unsolicited
commercial e-mail or posting inappropriate commercials to usenet
newsgroups. The word "inappropriate" in the last sentence is defined
by me on a case by case basis and depends mainly on the number of
complaints I receive.
3. What is the philosophy behind it?
In a nutshell: the Internet is probably as close to an anarchy as we
can get. This is good. Therefore, punishing of unwelcome behavior
should be done following the same grass roots philosophy that governs
the rest of the net. Read more about it in
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/blacklist_philosophy.html.
4. What can I do with it?
If you judge that one of the described behaviors is worthy of
punishment, you could for example do one of the following. (Note that
some of these might be illegal in some jurisdictions. Check the books
first and don't blame me.)
* Boycott the advertising business.
* Send them or their sysadmins a message informing them that you
disapprove of their behavior.
* Put them in you kill file. (Read all about rn and trn kill files
in
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/killfile-faq/
faq.html.)
* Filter them out of your mailbox. (If you read mail on a unix host,
you might want to use the program procmail for that, which can be
gotten via anonymous ftp from syd.dit.csiro.au as
/pub/ken/procmail-3.03.tar.gz. Another possibility is filter,
which comes with the mail reader elm.)
* Use procmail and an AI engine like emacs doctor to engage them in
a fake mail dialog.
* If you are a system operator, you could stop forwarding mail or
news originating from them.
* If you operate a cancelbot, you could automatically cancel all
postings originating from them.
* Say individuals A and B are on the list. You can send an e-mail
message to B with fake From-header A saying "I'm interested in
your product/service." In this fashion, the advertisers will start
to bug each other, end up on each others mailing lists and waste
time and money.
5. What if I wanted to punish YOU?
Well, in principle you could use the measures from question 4 (except
the first and last one) or you could even start a blacklist of
blacklist maintainers. But why would you want to do such an evil thing
to me, your humble servant?
6. What other blacklists are out there?
I'm aware of one blacklist operated by Pierre Beyssac
<pb () fasterix frmug fr net> which tries to keep the french usenet
hierarchy fr clean of commercials and is posted regularly to the
groups fr.news.reponses, fr.news.divers and fr.biz.d.
7. How can I help?
* If you encounter an instance of offensive advertising on the
internet, tell me about it. My e-mail address is
boldt () math ucsb edu; please use the word "Blacklist" somewhere
in the subject line. Make sure to check the last version of the
list first so that I won't get multiple complaints about
incidents already covered! The newest version is always available
over the WWW as
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/blacklist.html.
* Feel free to contact me if you find that any information in this
document is inaccurate.
* Please start your own blacklist and tell me about it. I will
include a pointer to it here.
* Let me know about any creative suggestions for the answer to
question 4.
* Don't let anyone know about any creative suggestions for the
answer to question 5.
* Distribute this list widely.
* If you know where to find a copy of the original C&S greencard
posting, please tell me.
8. THE BLACKLIST IN ITSELF
I have formatted it in such a way to make automatic processing easy.
Every entry can contain some or all off the fields ID, Name, Address,
Phone, Email, WWW, Entered, Changed, Behavior, Remarks in this order.
A line starting with whitespace is a continuation of the preceding
line. Several Names, e-mail or WWW addresses etc. are separated by
commas and optional whitespace. Blank lines separate the entries.
Every entry has a unique ID so that your program can decide if it has
processed that entry before when a new list arrives. Furthermore, the
original offensive article is accessible as
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/<ID>.txt where the true ID
is to be substituted for <ID>.
===Blacklist start===
ID: CS941211
Name: L. Canter, M. Siegel
Address: 3333 East Camelback Road, Suite 250, Phoenix, AZ 85260, USA
Cybersell, P.O.Box 13510, Scottsdale, AZ 85267, USA
Phone: (602) 661-3911
Email: lcanter () cyber sell com, msiegel () cyber sell com,
market () cyber sell com
WWW: http://cyber.sell.com/
Entered: 1994/12/11
Behavior: The famous greencard lawyers. In 1994, they repeatedly sent
out a message offering their services in helping to enter
the US greencard lottery to almost all usenet newsgroups.
(Note in passing: they charged $100 for their service, while
participating in the greencard lottery is free and consists
merely of sending a letter with your personal information at the
right time to the right place.) When the incoming mail bombs
forced their access provider to terminate their account,
they threatened to sue him until he finally agreed to
forward all responses to them.
They have signed an agreement with their current access
provider, PSI, to refrain from sending out junk e-mail or
spamming usenet. The text is available over the net as
http://www.psi.com/press/Canter-Siegal-6-23.html.
They have since written a book, "How to Make a Fortune on
the Information Superhighway" and founded an internet
advertising company, Cybersell. The book promotes several
advertising strategies on the internet including gathering
addresses from usenet and sending out junk e-mail, posting
commercials to inappropriate newsgroups like they did,
advertising on irc and even via talk. They basically contend
that all these behaviors are legal and therfore ok.
They ridicule the terms "internet culture" and "netiquette"
and claim that the internet, once all real-world laws are
applied to it, will make a great source of income for
attorneys.
This book has inspired cancelbots and this list and has
earned them a permanent first place on it.
Remarks: Don't bug the poor guys at cybersell.com, they were the access
providers for C&S during their first spam...:-)
ID: PG941211
Name: Peter Gordon, OneWorld OnLine NOOK
Address: 794 Fort Street, Box 38026, Victoria, BC, V8W 1H0, CANADA
1275 Pembroke Street, Unit 1, Victoria, B.C. V8T 1J7, CANADA
Phone: (604) 592-7953, (604) 385-3694
Email: peter () nook com, peter () carver DataFlux BC CA,
offer () nook com, info () nook com
Entered: 1994/12/11
Behavior: Sent out junk e-mail on 1994/12/11 posing as Santa Claus and
offering forged e-mail as a X-mas gift for $5 apiece.
Remarks: nook.com is connected via uucp to the internet host
carver.DataFlux.BC.CA [134.87.177.20].
ID: NM941211
Name: Netmart Inc.
Email: gls () netmart com, nminfo () netmart com
WWW: http://netmart.com/
Entered: 1994/12/11
Behavior: Spammed several unrelated newsgroups on 1994/12/10 with a
truly sad announcement of their WWW Mall.
===Blacklist end===
_________________________________________________________________
Date: 1994/12/12 22:27:51 PST
(C) 1994 by Axel Boldt <boldt () math ucsb edu>.
Do with it what you want.
--
Axel Boldt * boldt () math ucsb edu * http://plato.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/
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