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Will new "spam reduction" service result in... more spam?


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:19:39 -0500


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From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>


Naturally Mailblocks has every right to draft these terms of service --
heck, sending ads to its users may be the only way it can afford to provide
accounts and tech support at ~$10 a year -- but we have every right to say
"no, thanks."

Nowadays it's not just RTFM. It's Read The Fine Terms Of Service Agreement
(RTFTOSA).

Also:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/24/technology/24PHIL.html
On Monday, Phil Goldman, whose career as a software designer has included
stints at Apple, General Magic, WebTV and Microsoft, will introduce a
service that he says will permanently end e-mail spam for consumers who
are being driven to distraction by unsolicited pitches for diet schemes
and offers of great wealth from Nigeria. [...]

-Declan

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From: Kyle Maus
To: declan () well com
Subject: New "spam-reduction" service may yield more spam.
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:26:15 -0600

Declan, please remove my e-mail address. Thanks.

CNET (among other news sites is touting Mailblocks, a "new class of email
service that completely rids your Inbox of spam and offers the powerful
features you want in your web mail." After reading the ToS and privacy
policy, I certainly will not recommend the service.

CNET's article here: http://news.com.com/2010-1071-992911.html

Mailblocks link: http://www.mailblocks.com

These are taken from the site's privacy policy and ToS:

"Mailblocks furnishes our members, and permits third parties to furnish our
members, through the Services and otherwise, with information, promotional
materials and solicitations, from time to time. You may not "opt out" of
the receipt of such promotional materials from Mailblocks and/or its
affiliates, advertisers or other business partners if you wish to use the
Services. The receipt of such promotional materials is an inseparable part
of the Services that Mailblocks provides. If you decide that you would like
to discontinue receiving such promotional materials, you must stop your use
of the Services and terminate your account with Mailblocks."

"Mailblocks reserves the right to release any personally identifiable
registration information regarding you to third parties who provide goods
or services that we believe may be of interest to you. Some third parties
furnishing you with promotional materials may permit you to "opt out" of
receiving such communications from them. However, Mailblocks is not
responsible for any such party's failure to comply with its own "opt out"
policies."

"Mailblocks uses individual data to "target" advertising - to decide which
advertisements and sponsor messages to send to which members. As an
example, if Sponsor Co. wishes to send their advertising only to Mailblocks
members residing in California, Mailblocks uses member registration data to
ensure that Sponsor Co.'s ads are sent only to members residing in
California."

"Mailblocks may use individual members' data to "pre-populate" forms which
are displayed for the purpose of collecting individual data by Mailblocks
and/or its sponsors. In no case does pre-populating a form automatically
transfer any data to any advertiser or third party. Only if the member
voluntarily requests that such data be transferred will any transfer take
place - for example, if/when a member clicks a "submit form" button or
other button."

So, these people expect me to pay them to fix one spam problem while they
create another?

I don't think so....




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