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more on Fwd: Re: Fwd: Army Times calls for Rumsfeld and Meyers relief
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:49:59 -0400
Delivered-To: dfarber+ () ux13 sp cs cmu edu Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:00:59 -0700 From: "J. Andrew Rogers" <andrew () ceruleansystems com> Subject: Re: [IP] Fwd: Army Times calls for Rumsfeld and Meyers relief To: dave () farber net > the thing that amazes me is that the press does not find it strange that > the officers are given reprimands and the enlisted reservist are taken to > court. > > Where is the military traditions and law?? This is actually correct, and a military reprimand is more severe and has more consequences than it sounds. The system works slightly differently for officers than enlisted, and officers actually have a stiffer conduct code. Even if the officers are not guilty of criminal conduct, they will be held liable for things that happen under their command that may not even be able to control (an example below). Enlisted personnel are only responsible for criminal acts they commit. In this particular case, the officers may not have committed a prosecutable criminal act (or charges simply may not have been filed yet), but punitive measures will be exacted against them because serious criminal activities happened under their command. The "reprimand" is significant. It prevents them from gaining rank, and as an officer in the US military, if you are passed over for rank or fall off the promotion track, you are ejected from the military. In other words, this reprimand is a severe career limiting event. Some people are surprised at the kinds of things an Army officer can be held liable for. For example, if you are the CO and your soldiers do not get a certain amount of food per day, per regulations, you will receive a reprimand at a minimum if events were entirely beyond your control and a court martial if it is due to perceived officer negligence. Note that it doesn't matter what the reason is that there is a food shortage (e.g. a logistical screwup, enemy action, whatever), an officer will be held liable if his troops aren't fed. I've personally seen officers max out their credit cards and make personal arrangements for food delivery when a logistics problem interrupted the supply line because that is what is expected of them. If they do fail to meet an operational requirement like the above, the severity of their punishment for failing will be determined by the extent that they attempted to mitigate the problem and the Army is not very forgiving. The US officer corps requires near perfection of command record to get promoted to a senior officer position, and the majority of officers never make it that far. While it may look like the enlisted are getting the shaft and the officers are getting a free ride, this does not appear to be the case to me. Even in the absence of specific criminal activity, punitive measures can be taken against officers on the mere appearance of incompetence at command. It is a virtual certainty that the officers who were directly related to the units in question will not be in the military very long. j. andrew rogers ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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