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"Buried" Voter Fraud Theories
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:20:53 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Seth Johnson <seth.johnson () RealMeasures dyndns org> Date: November 12, 2004 2:12:53 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: "Buried" Voter Fraud Theories David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Steven Cherry <s.cherry () ieee org> Date: November 12, 2004 10:27:20 AM EST To: "David J. Farber" <dave () farber net> Subject: NY Times to Bloggers: Calm down! Dave, In two articles today, the NY Times tells those of us concerned about the 2004 election process that there's nothing here to look at, just move along. <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/politics/12theory.html> Vote Fraud Theories, Spread by Blogs, Are Quickly Buried <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/politics/12evote.html> Mostly Good Reviews for Electronic Voting
(For IP, if you desire) Dave: We are fighting for a democratic election. Period. We are trying to find a way to save or recover this election due to the deficiencies and lack of recourse that resulted from the mass implementation of black box voting devices. The election failed. There's no myth to the fact that black boxes violate the electoral process. What we want is an investigation into the consequences of the failure of the electoral process due to the use of black box voting technology. Openness, public scrutiny and recourse are necessary elements of a valid electoral process, are what makes elections work, by assuring faith in the conduct and outcome, deterring fraud in advance, and providing recourse to correction in response to failures. The use of black box voting technology thoroughly subverts the validity and integrity of the electoral process. We've been duped by misconceived notions of automating accuracy, giving up on the established means for assuring the reliability of the electoral process. The Help America Vote Act was the instrument of the failure. NASED was the negligent agency. Their failure to assure the principles of public scrutiny and recourse through an incorrect reliance on automating accuracy instead, is what caused the collapse in faith in the integrity of this election. There was not a lot that was *regular* about this election. You can't have an election where the process is not open to scrutiny all along the chain, and where you have no recourse to a recount as a way of assuring and correcting the election's validity. We don't need proof of vote tampering. We need the media to do its job. To say that an electoral process that lacks public scrutiny and recourse is somehow acceptable and normal, is fraud. The election process that was established and conducted for 2004 was a failure. We have to demand a valid electoral process, even if it makes no difference in the outcome. That means no black box voting, and openness, verifiability and recourse built into the process all along the chain, exactly how it has always been supposed to be, whether with traditional mechanical devices or electronic devices. Please work together to reverse the undermining of electoral process through black box technology, regardless of whether it will change the outcome of the election. Seth Johnson -- [CC] Counter-copyright: http://realmeasures.dyndns.org/cc I reserve no rights restricting copying, modification or distribution of this incidentally recorded communication. Original authorship should be attributed reasonably, but only so far as such an expectation might hold for usual practice in ordinary social discourse to which one holds no claim of exclusive rights. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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