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[Politics] more on ANY OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS djf Krugman
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:17:14 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: "Gordon C. Thomasson, Ph.D." <gthomas1 () stny rr com> Date: November 28, 2004 10:44:50 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] more on ANY OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS djf Krugman Dave, Subject: Re: [IP] more on ANY OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS djf Krugman > I see both the state of NY and the state of CA and all of the > largest urban areas therein as broke.Governments tend to go broke when tax receipts decline faster than spending slows. This situation is likely to reverse as economic growth returns -- due to absorbtion of new technologies.
Mark Stahlman New York City Living in NY and being from CA ...California would not have become "broke" (or elected/had reason--NOT the same thing as rationality--to elect the puppet-for-big-business Arnold) if it
had repudiated ALL unpaid energy bills after the ENRON (and otherproviders') scam/theft became known and indicted the officers of any provider who threatened to cut off power delivery in response, and immediately sued
for recovery of all monies already paid, plus triple RICO damages. LACounty's municipal power, like a few areas in NY, free of the conspiratorial grid, is proof that the price-of-power-fixing was all a fraud. Short-term economic growth or decline and/or the absorption of new technologies is irrelevant.
(Will Ken Lay ever see a day of jail, given GWB's "mandate" and all KLknows about where the bodies are buried? Will we ever see what industry
and Dick Cheney created in the White House and how? Or, more to thepoint, will information on who all in the Bush administration feloniously
"outed" ambassador Wilson's CIA wife (and targeted all those with whom she worked overseas, both naive and innocently or as actual company assets / agents) come out before the November 2004 election? ... --anachronism intended!)I not only live in New York but in Broome County, original but now almost all outsourced home of IBM (even if to other parts of NY). Since 1990, our "Peace Dividend" has been a disproportionally high loss in manufacturing and other non-service jobs. (But don't panic, "assembling burgers" is now,
we are told by some state Republicans, a manufacturing job.)New York (and national) Republicans (a publican was a tax collector, or more precisely a tax-farmer, so what is a re-publican?) love to rant (and get elected) "when tax receipts decline faster than spending does", but they all--obscenely (and perhaps predictably--even those styled as "economists"), never point out to the overburdened public-they-pander-to the difference between fixed costs and other kinds of government spending. Governments cannot stop plowing streets, lighting dangerous intersections, maintaining health and emergency services or providing a host of other public services without risking both court liabilities ("the victim wouldn't have died if the street had been plowed as it
had been for the previous 70+ years, your honor"), and enormous costsshifted to individuals, local and county governments when state government no longer provides essential services. Of course cutbacks always come first
in affluent neighborhoods and around powerful corporations, etc., never on the poor ... NOT! [Not just a NY thing: after Prop 13 passed inCalifornia in the early 1970s, I saw funding cut for swimming pools--I'm
from South Central LA--but not for shuffleboard courts, a "demographic" thing.] The next time someone complains about spending, ask what percentage ofgovernment spending is fixed cost. Sure, they'll complain that wages and benefits to government employees are too high, but unless they outsource essential jobs and services to India (To plow our streets? I seem to recall a mid-western state outsourcing its unemployment services, of all the stupid profit-, bribe-, and kickback-making decisions, which further destroys our
local tax revenues, job markets, and economies.), who will perform theessential services that are so much of the fixed cost of governments. As it
is, nationwide many urban government employees cannot afford to live in the community where they work. In NY, our whore-to-the-rich (oops,excuse me, R-governor) has cut state taxes by cutting state payments for
many services, transferring the cost for those to county and municipal governments, but not cutting taxes anywhere near as much as fundingfor services--then all we have to figure out is what he does with the balance.
((Full Disclosure: as a Cornell Ph.D., since 1993 at our local community
college, nominally part of the SUNY system, though NOT in salary orbenefits--let's forget national averages for people with comparable training
and experience--I have been paid more than $10,000/year LESS than the average New York high school teacher, with a decline in our real wages every year. Yes, downstate teachers have higher rents, but upstate we have higher energy and transportation costs. As public employees, NY'sfascist "Taylor Law" prevents striking or ANY OTHER effective job action (picketing with no threat behind it is a near-pointless exercise in "free
speech") to try and get anything remotely resembling fair treatment. Pennsylvania's toll booth operators have more real rights than ALL of NY's public employees--whether toll booth operators, professors, M.D.s, and after 9/11 the politically exploited/photo-opt'ed to/in death EMTs, police, and firemen, combined. The state and county never meet their obligations to each fund 1/3 of CC expenses either, the students--and underpaid faculty & staff--have to make up the balance.))While politicians blame taxes for industrial declines, our gridlocked state
government (assembly is urban controlled/democratic majority, and senate is rural controlled/republican majority, and with either R- or D-governors) has failed to pass a state budget on time or anywhere near the legally mandated and fiscally necessary deadlines for twentyyears. How does a school district, for example, plan its budget, hiring, etc. for a Fall semester when the state can't/won't pass a budget until August
or September? What new business would want the same unpredictabilityin taxes, etc. that results when they can go to a state where politics and economics are more rational? It's not the taxes but the anarchy in Albany that is most discouraging to serious new businesses. (Big old ones already
own Albany, and receive more tax breaks than individuals, of course:industrial development zones, energy cost subsidies and tax breaks, etc.)
To go back to where this started, New York state tends "to go broke" in large part, not just because of declining tax revenues over and againstgovernment spending that result from politicians' irrationality, but because of increased debt-load that results from political inefficiency/corruption. Check out how every illegally late-passed state budget lowers NY state's
already LOW bond-rating (and "investor confidence") and figure out what THAT costs--in terms of interest as a slice of expenditures out of a revenue pie, whether fixed, rising or declining--as year-after-year ourunpassed state budget delays translate DIRECTLY into higher interest rates
to service our debt load on bond markets. (I won't allude to the links between state Republicans and bond-brokering and issuing profit-makinginstitutions. I wouldn't want to offend the bankers who contribute to the
party.) Enough! Gordon C. Thomasson, Ph.D. World History Faculty Broome Community College (SUNY)
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