more on Networked RFID and Near Field Communications]

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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Subject: RE: [IP] more on Networked RFID and Near Field Communications
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:01:10 -0800
From: John Shoch <shoch () alloyventures com>
To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com
CC: John Shoch <shoch () alloyventures com>

Dave,

For IP, if you like.

I think it is pretty easy to "envision mobile phones converging rapidly
with RFID" because it is already happening


1.  Newer advanced RFID chips are being used in the new "contactless"
credit cards being deployed by a number of card associations and their
member banks.
MasterCard seems to be out in front, with their "PayPass" system:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/aboutourcards/paypass/index.html
Mastercard ran a nice Paypass ad during the Superbowl:
http://www.priceless.com/film/nowshowing.html  [click on the thumbnail
which says "Marathon."]

2.  Visa has now introduced Visa Contectless:
http://www.usa.visa.com/personal/cards/contactless/index.html?ep=v_sym_contactlesspayments

3.  Chase Bank is distributing cards to their customers under the name
Chase Blink:
http://www.chaseblink.com/blink_flash.asp

4.  The reader and system infrastructure being deployed to handle
contactless cards has been developed by Vivotech:
http://www.vivotech.com/
This infrastructure will also enable support of mobile phones with a
near field communication (NFC) capability.

5.  Next generation payment systems using NFC mobile phones are ALREADY
being field tested (involving Chase, Cingular, Nokia, Visa, Vivotech):
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/news/content/file_1209.html
http://press.nokia.com/PR/200512/1025543_5.html

Cheers,

John Shoch
Alloy Ventures


PS on security:
Remember that there are many different kinds of RFID tags.
The "simple $.05 tags" are bare-bones passive devices, similar to what
you already have in a "key-card" used to enter a building.
There are much more complicated tags which include a processor, memory,
and extensive security software for use in other applications.


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From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
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Subject: Re: [IP] Networked RFID and Near Field Communications]
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:42:20 -0500
From: Jeffrey Joslin <jj () joslins net>
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To: dave () farber net
References: <43F3908F.8050409 () farber net>


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Networked RFID and Near Field Communications
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:32:53 +0100
> From: Robert.Shaw () itu int
> To: dave () farber net
>
> Dave,
>
> I've been in an ITU workshop on networked RFID this
> week in Geneva and it is very clear from the presentations that
> the experts envision mobile phones converging rapidly with RFID
...

Umm, that is definitely an understatement...

Cellphone could crack RFID tags, says cryptographer
Rick Merritt    
EE Times
(02/14/2006 4:26 PM EST)
http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=180201688

> From that article:
"I haven’t tested all RFID tags, but we did test the biggest brand and
it is totally unprotected," Shamir said. Using this approach, "a
cellphone has all the ingredients you need to conduct an attack and
compromise all the RFID tags in the vicinity," he added.

Jeffrey

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jeffrey joslin
president

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