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Re: Getting Real About the Internet
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:16:39 -0700
with akk due respect, much of the talk re caps has less to do with traffic management and maybe more to do with competing with TV delivered via the net. Caps structured "correctly" will surcharge TV delivery over the net so much as to make it non competative with the cable (and fios} TV delivery systems. So we will continue with hundreds of channels and nothing to watch. djf ________________________________________ From: Brett Glass [brett () lariat net] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:47 PM To: David Farber; ip Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: Re: Getting Real About the Internet At 05:24 PM 7/30/2008, Lauren Weinstein wrote:
The big ISPs' newly resurrected infatuations with bandwidth caps are often disingenuous at best. As we've seen, DOCSIS 3 is going to provide a whole lotta bandwidth for the cable ISPs.
DOCSIS 3 may help some problems on the downstream side. However, remember Japan's experience with 100 Mbps to the home: P2P traffic expanded to saturate it. If P2P mitigation is not allowed, the upgrade will bring no benefit. What's more, faster pipes in the last mile do nothing to reduce the cost of backbone bandwidth, whose price is actually increasing in any location where it must be backhauled. (This due to price increases by the ILECs.)
Why suddenly all the talk of caps from AT&T? Could it have anything to do with their ugly U-verse VRAD boxes sprouting like mushrooms in AT&T service areas, ready to provide television programming, PPV movies, and other content that might monetize more effectively if competing Internet-delivered offerings were effectively stifled by bandwidth caps?
No; it has to do with the fact that they have only just upgraded their backbone and already project that the new capacity will be exhausted in two to three years.
More and more, we're being flimflammed when it comes to Internet connectivity and associated terms of service limitations.
This is simply untrue, Lauren. Let's REALLY get real here: The fact is that ALL ISPs are being slammed by exponentially increasing demand for bandwidth -- which certain parties, including yourself, seem to expect them to provide for free. --Brett Glass ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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