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Re: Comcast Considering 250GB Cap, Overage Fees
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:26:24 -0700
As I said, there is a problem arising djf ________________________________________ From: Lauren Weinstein [lauren () vortex com] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:18 AM To: David Farber Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Comcast Considering 250GB Cap, Overage Fees
From: Ralph [rs9174 () gmail com] To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] Comcast Considering 250GB Cap, Overage Fees 250GB would give you the bandwidth to download how many movies per month? 0? 1? 5? 25?
Dave, This is the "fox in the henhouse" problem with Internet access providers who are also content providers. It may be true that only a small percentage of Comcast's current users would exceed a 250G Internet cap per month -- today. But as we all know, a wide range of completely legit media delivery services are appearing that are or will be using the Internet. TV shows, movies (including HD movies), etc. -- and of course services like YouTube. Some of these use specialized set-top boxes, some use regular PCs, but the bottom line is that we are on the cusp of a massive rise in the reception of video over the Net on a mass scale by ordinary customers, who have been enticed to ever higher speed access lines by ISP advertising. However, many ISPs (especially the cable operators, but also DSL providers in some cases -- e.g., AT&T U-verse) also are in the business of selling content. They want you to watch their video (with their local ads), to upgrade to their premium channels, to use their video on demand, and in particular to order their pay-per-view movies and specials. This creates an obvious conflict. Since these ISPs are not only determining how much of their bandwidth will be devoted to their own offerings vs. outside Internet access, *and* establishing throughput speeds, bandwidth caps, and related surcharges, the risk of anticompetitive behavior is very real in the current regulatory environment. After all, who is going to order movies from an outside Internet service if you not only have to pay much the same for the movies as you would ordering from your ISP, but also eat up a big chunk of your Internet usage allocation for the month? If you order the movie from your ISP, it typically won't count against your Internet usage total in any way. Offhand I currently only see two possible ways out of this dilemma if ISPs go the bandwidth cap route. One is enhanced regulatory oversight to help ensure a competitive environment in this particular regard. The other would be for ISPs to include *all* related services as applying to the bandwidth cap (that is, whether you order a movie from an external Internet site, or from the ISP, they both count against the cap). This is a "sleeper" issue that is going to hit us bigtime if bandwidth caps become widespread here. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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