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Airport Security Cost The US the 2016 Olympics


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:48:34 -0400



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From: mary hodder <mary () hodder org>
Date: October 3, 2009 1:28:29 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net, Carl Stork <carl () ciconiaco com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Airport Security Cost The US the 2016 Olympics

Ironically, in 1921 Brazil, in reaction to US passport and visa restrictions, added some for for American citizens including the normal 2 month wait to get the $200 visa (can be one week with more fees and proof of travel). That visa is good for 1 trip to 5 years, whatever the issuer arbitrarily decides at the time of issuing the visa.

Oh, and the $200 fee can only be paid by money order (which requires standing in line at the post office).

These same restrictions don't apply for Europeans or the rest of the world, but do apply to Canadians.

So American's will suffer to enter Brazil for the Olympics but most of the rest of the world will not. Considering
everything we do to foreigners, it seems a completely fair trade.

On Oct 3, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Dave Farber wrote:





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From: Carl Stork <carl () ciconiaco com>
Date: October 3, 2009 12:31:38 EDT
To: dave () farber net, 'ip' <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: RE: [IP] Airport Security Cost The US the 2016 Olympics

It wasn’t airport security. It is U.S. Customs & Immigration. It is difficult, expensive and unpleasant to get a visa to come to the United States, and even for so-called visa-waiver countries to we are adding administrative hurdles and proposing new fees. Then once you travel to the U.S., the entry experience is unpleasant and disgraceful. I have friends in Europe who choose not to visit the U.S. any more because they don’t want to deal with it. I am sure many IOC members have had the unpleasant experience of entering the U.S.

A marketing campaign won’t fix this. Customs and Immigration doesn’t seem accountable to anyone for the awful experience it provides, even to U.S. citizens and residents.

From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:48 PM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Airport Security Cost The US the 2016 Olympics



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From: Labmanager <labmanager () gmail com>
Date: October 2, 2009 9:50:16 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Airport Security Cost The US the 2016 Olympics

http://intransit.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/chicagos-loss-is-passport-control-to-blame/

"Among the toughest questions posed to the Chicago bid team this week in Copenhagen was one that raised the issue of what kind of welcome foreigners would get from airport officials when they arrived in this country to attend the Games. Syed Shahid Ali, an I.O.C. member from Pakistan, in the question-and-answer session following Chicago’s official presentation, pointed out that entering the United States can be “a rather harrowing experience.”"

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