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Internet security flaw exposes private data


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:26:42 -0500





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From: Dave CROCKER <dhc2 () dcrocker net>
Date: January 16, 2010 4:24:41 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Dave Farber <dfarber () me com>, ip <ip () v2 listbox com>, Abe Singer <abe () oyvay nu>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:  Internet security flaw exposes private data
Reply-To: dcrocker () bbiw net




On 1/16/2010 12:00 PM, Dave Farber wrote:
From: "Abe Singer"<abe () oyvay nu>
...
We use SSL for precisely that reason (sidestepping for the moment
usability/trust issues with PKI).


It's probably important to bust this popular myth: regular SSL use would have done nothing for preventing or resolving this problem.

Typical use of SSL provides privacy from wiretapping, but does not prevent misdirection of the connection during setup.

If AT&T was misdirection initial connection setup, then that connection setup would merely have had a "correct" SSL session between the wrong two end-points.

Assuming this really was a NAT mapping error, or some other form of problem in the details of initially arranging the connection, then SSL would not have prevented it.

While SSL does contain the ability to do certain types of client and/ or server authentication, they are not typically part of this sort of activity. In fact, SSL-based authentication of the client is (almost) never performed, and SSL-based authentication of the server is relatively rare and constrained.

The core point in in the article was that the server produced the wrong image for the user's page: the entire session landed on the wrong user's account.

While possibly qualifying as a man-in-the-middle problem, formally, it's not of the type that regular use of SSL would affect.

d/

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 Dave Crocker
 Brandenburg InternetWorking
 bbiw.net



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