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More on liberal arts etc
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:58:49 +0000
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Douglas Comer <comer () cs purdue edu> Date: Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:57 PM Subject: Re: To: Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> Dave,
Rick says: I realise this could devolve quickly into another STEM-v-STEAM
argument... The situation should not be viewed as STEM-v-STEM, but rather as the need for STEM+STEAM. I attended a small "Liberal Arts" college, where the approach was to build a T-shaped person — breadth in many topics and depth in one. Each student had a major where they obtained depth. However, to ensure they had breadth, each student was required to take courses in literature, writing, art, music, history, mathematics, science, and two foreign languages. When I talk to students graduating from STEM departments I am appalled that they have not read novels, are unaware of history, and cannot write a cogent paragraph. More important, they do not have basic skills needed to communicate with others and explain their technical work. So, let’s be clear: the question isn’t vocational training vs fluff because many of the topics from liberal arts have a direct relationship to career success. The point is that if liberal arts are done well, they make a direct contribution to employment and advancement. Unfortunately, liberal arts are not always done well. When I hear students’ reports about courses, I am shocked at what has happened to liberal arts. In many universities, liberal arts courses have been transformed into political correctness indoctrination sessions. Can you imagine, for example, an English course where students are told they can write a spell however they like because grammar and spelling rules are merely a form of discrimination? What we need are better liberal arts course and STEM curricula that include them. My two cents, Doug ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125 Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20170627145911:B004277A-5B6A-11E7-83BD-B14B4AFEEA6E Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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