Re weather, climate, and Trump

["Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>]

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From: Synthesis:Law and Technology <synthesis.law.and.technology () gmail com>
Date: Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] weather, climate, and Trump
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>


Dave,
With respect, this appears to be part of the problem.  Neither a warm
summer nor a cold winter are signs of climate change.   Both are weather.
Climate change is real, but we really need stop trying to put it into
soundbites.  The multi year melting of the artic ice cap is simple,
demonstrate, meme-able, and hard to argue with. We need to stop confusing
weather with climate, stop confusing land subsiding with ocean level
rising, etc etc.

As an aside, all the predictive models said this was going to be a warm wet
winter.  We also need to get a better handle on weather.

On Jan 3, 2018 5:19 PM, "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net> wrote:


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From: Douglas Comer <comer () cs purdue edu>
Date: Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 5:17 PM
Subject: weather, climate, and Trump
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>


Here at Purdue University (West Lafayette, Indiana), we just experienced
one of the worst cold snaps we’ve had. Some of the Earth Sciences people
criticized Trump’s comments, and explained the situation clearly — its just
weather.  Then they added the observation that last summer was extremely
warm, which shows the warming climate.

I’ve seen the same thing in the media, and have realized that it’s possible
to reduce the entire discussion to sound bites that anyone — even
politicians — can understand:  if temperatures are warm one summer, that’s
the changing climate, but if temperatures are cold one winter, that’s just
weather.

Maybe if we all get behind this, it will eliminate the confusion and
ambiguity brought on by careful, reasoned discussion.

Doug



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