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Re Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:46:32 +0900



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From: Rob McEwen <rob () invaluement com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet
Date: July 23, 2018 at 11:53:41 AM GMT+9
To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () listbox com>

For the past 100+ years, the sea levels have been rising by about 2-4 mm per year. If you go to the following two 
sites:

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html <https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html>
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/ <https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/>

You'll see all kinds of scary language about dire predictions about how the sea levels are rising and accelerating. 
And you'll see SCARY charts that look like Mt. Everest. But when you dig into the actual data, you'll find that there 
MIGHT have been (at most!) a CUMULATIVE 1mm/year acceleration... but even that took about 4 decades to materialize, 
it could be somewhat within the margin of error, and it might be a part of the fake data that often drives this 
debate. Meanwhile, global warming alarmists have ALREADY made MANY dire predictions about oceans levels rising - that 
ALREADY didn't even come close to true.

The bottom line is that there is no trend of recently observed sea level rising data that is even close to being on 
track to hit all these dire predictions within the foreseeable future. And even as the West has reduced (or lessened 
the acceleration of) CO2 emissions - this has been easily made up for by the CO2 emission increases caused by the 
modernization of China and India in recent decades.

And, again, there were articles like this 10, 15, and even 20 years ago that made very similar predictions - that 
didn't happen. So, it is hard to believe that the dire predictions in this article could come true in 15 years.

But I suppose that it might be a good idea to take inventory of the absolute lowest altitude cables and make sure 
that they are not vulnerable to the type of flooding that might happen more often after a few decades from now after 
the ocean has further risen about 2 inches? But the sky is not falling anytime soon.

Rob McEwen


On 7/22/2018 9:04 PM, Dave Farber wrote:


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From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com <mailto:sean () donelan com>>
Subject: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet
Date: July 23, 2018 at 10:01:12 AM GMT+9
To: nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>


https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure 
<https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure>

Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet, sooner than you think

[...]
Despite its magnitude, this network is increasingly vulnerable to sea levels inching their way higher, according to 
research presented at an academic conference in Montreal this week. The findings estimate that within 15 years, 
thousands of miles of what should be land-bound cables in the United States will be submerged underwater.

“Most of the climate change-related impacts are going to happen very soon,” says Paul Barford, a computer scientist 
at the University of Wisconsin and lead author of the paper.
[...]


-- 
Rob McEwen
https://www.invaluement.com <https://www.invaluement.com/>
+1 (478) 475-9032


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