Re: Agenda suggestions?

[Sean Doran <smd () sprint net>]

There are a couple of other things that might bear
discussion based on some recent public revelations
of not-so-new information.

 -- Security problems operators can fix
        [or, how to let your customers be used to break into
        interesting places]
        (route announcement filtering vs. routing attacks
        outbound packet filters on CPE routers vs. spoofing
        attacks like the ones CERT announced recently)
    This could go fairly quickly.

 -- Routing flaps considered harmful
        [or, how to kill half the Internet with one rapidly-
        oscillating circuit]
        (many routers are having problems CPU-wise processing
        the number of route-flaps seen these days.  BGP to
        single-homed internets exacerbates this; so does 
        any type of unnecessary dynamic routing.  On Ciscos,
        leaving seriously-flapping links up and running when
        they can affect worldwide NLRI is bad news.
        Aggregation helps.)

| 2) technical presentation on what is a route server

        Is this going to be from an RA/RS perspective?  If
        so, some talk about converting extremely complicated
        policy now embedded in border Ciscos to something
        that can be put into the RA/RSes would be neato.
        (Also what that policy ought to be in very broad
        terms ("NAP/MAE technical etiquette") might be
        useful as a short side-line talk.)

        [or, Peter Lothberg politely questions the current
        implementation's utility]

| 5) end-to-end problem resolution - is it possible?

        Can we make this last?  I suspect that this
        could get quite angry if we're not careful... :(

        [or, "it's been three hours since we sent email
        and we haven't gotten a response from you.  this is
        a recording." vs. "it's your fault, fix it." vs. "" 

        or, some really good ideas that organizations of all
        sorts have for customer support in the face of
        problems that can't be fixed or even diagnosed
        locally
        
        or, Miss Manners's guide to excruciatingly correct
        inter-carrier relations (aka, the "NOC etiquette
        handbook")

        or, "No sales talks, please, we're operators". :)]

| 7) ATM testbed results

        Can we put this immediately before lunch?  
        Trust me. :-)

        [or, "Curtis says, "ATM is *amazing*" followed
        by murmurs of agreement.  Politics at eleven."]

I might think of a few other things if we have too few agenda.

        Sean.