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Re: Peering versus Transit
From: Matt Zimmerman <mdz () netrail net>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:44:20 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Bill Woodcock wrote: [re: pointing bogus statics at a provider's router to reach their customers]
WRT the former, I simply cannot fathom, and no one other than Sean has
yet presented an argument explaining why it's malicious to deliver a
packet to its addressee's ISP. Why should I, as an ISP, not prefer
that all other ISPs deliver packets to my customers as quickly,
efficiently, directly, and inexpensively as possible? Why should I
prefer a more expensive or less reliable route, or expect any other
ISP to do so?
Quite simply, because you're using THEIR resources to do so, without explicit permission from them. Claiming that you're using the resource for its intended purpose, or to the advantage of their proprietor, does not justify this. Could one demand to ride public transportation without fare with the justification that the stated purpose of a certain bus is to carry persons into the city? Or because one's employer desires that one get to the city in an efficient fashion? By delivering your packets to their customers, an ISP is not only servicing said customers, but you, the originating ISP, as well. If there is an imbalance in services rendered, settlement is in order. Utilizing their services without an agreement could be interpreted as theft. -- // Matt Zimmerman Chief of System Management NetRail, Inc. // mdz () netrail net sales () netrail net // (703) 524-4800 [voice] (703) 516-0500 [data] (703) 534-5033 [fax] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Peering versus Transit, (continued)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Neil J. McRae (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alex.Bligh (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Sean Doran (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Matt Zimmerman (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Jeff Young (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Matthew Kaufman (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Sean Doran (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Barney Wolff (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Barney Wolff (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit William Allen Simpson (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Michael Dillon (Sep 30)
(Thread continues...)
