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Re: Smurfing
From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:36:06 -0500
At 5:52 PM -0500 2/13/98, Randy Bush wrote:
o All router administrators on the immediately reachable Internet needs to turn off directed broadcasts on their router interfaces. It's conceivable that "a significant portion of all" would do as well, but the magnitude of this problem boggles the mind. First of all, we'd need to distribute the appropriate amount of clue to all the corners of the net where this needs to happen. Maybe, just maybe, we'll get there sometime (I'm an optimist!).why should this not have become the default mode for all vendor diustributed router code?
Because routers used by regular companies on their intranets generally need
to propogate directed broadcasts so that protocols and software that use
directed broadcasts in a subnetted environment will work properly. Its only
at the borders of other companies (such as ISP's) that directed broadcasts
have to be turned off.
Even ISP's that use things like HPOV SNMP host discovery internally need to
permit internal directed broadcasts. But they shouldn't go outside your
network, and you probably don't want them coming in from the outside to
your internal network.
It would be a bad default, since the less experienced net-admin at a
private company might not understand why broadcasts don't work, whilst the
more sophisticated net-admins supposedly found at ISP's and NSP's know
about these things, and usually have some tools to quickly configure
routers in cookie-cutter fashion, making the defaults unnecessary ;-)
--Dean
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Plain Aviation, Inc dean () av8 com
LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com
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Current thread:
- Re: Smurfing, (continued)
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- Re: Smurfing Kelly J. Cooper (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing Paul Ferguson (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Randy Bush (Feb 16)
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- Re: Smurfing Jay R. Ashworth (Feb 16)
- Re: Smurfing Alex P. Rudnev (Feb 16)
- Re: Smurfing Paul Ferguson (Feb 17)
- Re: Smurfing Bradley Reynolds (Feb 17)
- Re: Smurfing Tatsuya Kawasaki (Feb 17)
- Re: Smurfing Alex P. Rudnev (Feb 18)
- Re: Smurfing Paul Ferguson (Feb 18)
- Re: Smurfing Dean Anderson (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing ken emery (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing Dean Anderson (Feb 16)
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- Re: Smurfing Jay R. Ashworth (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing Craig A. Huegen (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing David J. Schmidt (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Steve Camas (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Jon Lewis (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Craig A. Huegen (Feb 13)
