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RE: MPLS VPNs or not?
From: "Kavi, Prabhu" <prabhu_kavi () tenornetworks com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:56:53 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: Vadim Antonov [mailto:avg () exigengroup com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:45 AM To: Christian Kuhtz Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: MPLS VPNs or not?
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I'm known for making strong statements, you are right. However, so far I've heard no convincing argument against these positions; and I tried to solicit opinions by offering the opinions in question for the public review. Frankly, i was disappointed by the "let's wait and see which one works" attitude. As Randy was kind to point out, that attitude already gave us a slew of DOA networking technologies, to the tune of billions wasted.
I don't think UUNET considered it a waste. UUNET could not have grown
as quickly as it did during the mid to late 90s without L2 (Frame and
ATM) technologies. Fortunately for them, they did not have any pure IP
only zealots that prevented the pragmatic use of other technologies
in their networks. Otherwise they probably would not have been able
to outrun the other ISPs.
UUNET received two benefits from it:
1. Speed, since at the time L2 switches were faster
than routers, and
2. Traffic engineering, which saved them money in transport
costs.
Point 1 is no longer valid. Point 2 is still valid.
UUNET built bigger and better networks at the time because of this.
The market decided that UUNET was right. UUNET's shareholders were
well rewarded because of what you called this "waste".
I guess the real question should be how much market cap did other
companies lose because of certain people's zealotry? Any answers
Vadim?
Prabhu
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Current thread:
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not?, (continued)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 08)
- RE: MPLS VPNs or not? Kavi, Prabhu (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Walter Prue (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Craig Partridge (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Scott Brim (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Craig Partridge (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Craig Partridge (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? David Charlap (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Sean M. Doran (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Sean M. Doran (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Sean M. Doran (Aug 08)
- RE: MPLS VPNs or not? Kavi, Prabhu (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Craig Partridge (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? jmalcolm (Aug 10)
- RE: MPLS VPNs or not? Greg Maxwell (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Fletcher E Kittredge (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Kevin Loch (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Majdi S. Abbas (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Joel Baker (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Craig Partridge (Aug 08)
- RE: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 08)
