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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:40:22 -0700
On 05/23/01, Mitch Halmu <mitch () netside net> wrote:
Third, the new 'rule' MAPS just came up with now is that you must keep your server open to their 'testing', or they'll blackhole you. See for yourself: http://www.dotcomeon.com/nph-rss-remove-blocking.html That is the reason given for blocking us the second time around. No new 'evidence', just open wide for inspection and say ahhh...Uhhh... so how do you propose that relays are tested to make sure they're closed before being removed from the database?This is the very thing they considered abusive just a few months ago. Wasn't it MAPS that blocked ORBS for scanning Abovenet's ports in the first place? So now they took their rival's worst rules and made it their own. Now it's my turn to say absolute rubbish.
You're blocking MAPS' test, but you leave your server open to
relay from just about anywhere else. Perhaps the error message
they gave you was unclear, but it should be fairly obvious that
if you want to get off the list, you have to close the relay.
MAPS isn't "forcing" you to do anything, you know. You're very
welcome to continue to leave it open. And, likewise, everyone
else is equally welcome to block all mail from your server, with
or without MAPS' easy removal process.
--
J.D. Falk SILENCE IS FOO!
<jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Current thread:
- RE: Stealth Blocking, (continued)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Derek Balling (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Jeremy T. Bouse (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Paul Vixie (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking John Payne (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking John Payne (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Scott Raymond (May 25)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 25)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Andy (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking J.D. Falk (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Scott Francis (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Margie Arbon (May 23)
