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RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...
From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:53:04 -0700
|> From: Jon Mansey [mailto:JMansey () interpacket net] |> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:41 AM |> |> Isnt part of the solution here for ppl to write NAT-aware |> applications? |> |> I got this idea from a bugtraq post about gnutella that is able to |> detect and announce a different IP address than that of its actual |> private host IP based on what its internet-facing public IP is. |> |> Im sure there are a host of reasons why this is not a good idea from |> a security POV, but its a start, no? |> |> Im not disputing that a NATed connection should not be sold as "full |> Internet connectivity", I agree, but in terms of making it look and |> feel like one, I think we're close. Two software development houses, playing nice with each other, is more rare than two ISPs doing same. The bottom-line is that it comes right off the bottom-line. You can't deny that it's extra work/cost and effects time-to-market. Remember, in software development, it's the second 90% that kills the project. Consider the straw that broke the camel's back. Then consider that 80% of all software projects never make it to market. Then consider that most developers are NOT network engineers. They expect the network to *be there*, period.
Current thread:
- Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Roeland Meyer (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Doug Clements (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Bob K (Sep 06)
- Re[2]: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Richard Welty (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Bob K (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Charles Sprickman (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Eric A. Hall (Sep 06)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Roeland Meyer (Sep 06)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Tony Hain (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... David Howe (Sep 06)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Jim Shankland (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Eric A. Hall (Sep 06)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Mike Batchelor (Sep 07)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Brian Whalen (Sep 09)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Christian Kuhtz (Sep 09)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Tony Hain (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Doug Clements (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Josh Richards (Sep 06)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Jeff Mcadams (Sep 06)
