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Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:46:27 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
Anyway, in our efforts to see security weaknesses everywhere, we might be going too far. For instance, nearly all our current protocols are completely vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack. If someone digs up a fiber, intercepts packets and changes the content before letting them continue to their destination, maybe the layer 1 guys will notice, but not any of us IP people.
I'm waiting for one of the professional security consulting firms to issue their weekly press release screaming "Network Operator Meeting Fails Security Test." The wireless networks at NANOG meetings never follow what the security professionals say are mandatory, essential security practices. The NANOG wireless network doesn't use any authentication, enables broadcast SSID, has a trivial to guess SSID, doesn't use WEP, doesn't have any perimeter firewalls, etc, etc, etc. At the last NANOG meeting IIRC over 400 stations were active on the network. Are network operators really that clueless about security, or perhaps we need to step back and re-think. What are we really trying to protect? Banks are mostly concerned about people defrauding the bank, not the bank's customers. Banks rarely check the signature on a check. Is security just perception?
Current thread:
- More Thoughts on White House Cybersecurity Draft, (continued)
- More Thoughts on White House Cybersecurity Draft Richard Forno (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Steven M. Bellovin (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Jared Mauch (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Sean Donelan (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity batz (Sep 19)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Brad Knowles (Sep 19)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Sean Donelan (Sep 19)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 18)
- Re: Whitehouse Tackels Cybersecurity Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 20)
- Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Sean Donelan (Sep 21)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Randy Bush (Sep 21)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Richard A Steenbergen (Sep 21)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Richard A Steenbergen (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Kevin Steves (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Joel Jaeggli (Sep 23)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Randy Bush (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Sean Donelan (Sep 22)
- To late to add a Sunday Tutorial, base on MERIT data. Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings John M. Brown (Sep 22)