I agree with Susan ....

[Joe Baptista <baptista () dot-god com>]

and those who are interested in exploring the future of ipv6 and
contributing to my next article are welcomed.  including my detractors on
this list.

contact me privately.  susans getting a little dictatorial but i'll
respect her position if everyone gets spanked.  i can support the
technical position of my article - but my detractors keep alluding to
fiction and never have pointed out what is wrong with the statements made.

Cheers
Joe Baptista

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Baptista <baptista () dot-god com>
To: Susan Harris <srh () merit edu>
Cc: nanog-support () merit edu, Publisher - CircleID Network <ali () circleid com>
Subject: Re: i think terroists are going to love ipv6


this isn't a political discussion this is fact.  but i will cease with the
warnings.  those who are interested can semd me provate email.  i'm
pulling together a team to examine these issues.

however i do agree with you that politics will impose itself on ipv6
technology.  and isp's will be forced to participate in the fight against
any form of political lobby against some authority or monied interests.

but certainly my concerns with respect ti the spam is critical to this
list.  at least i see alot of that.

now i hope your also sending this warning out to the people who are
calling the article nonsens.  i expect network administrators top point
out where i have been mislead.  it is after all leading members of the
industry who i have interviewed.  vint cerf is no small bananas and the
advice provided in the article certainly is relevant to network
engineering and operational issues.

so i expect you to provide me with some written assurances that those hoi
paloy hecklers have been appropriately bitch slapped by you.  whats good
for the goose is good for the gander so the saying goes.

so relax - take a valium - be happy.  we both know the isociety tries to
quite the truth and i suspect your a leading member here if you don't warn
those others.  i expect you to do the right thing.

love and kisses XOXOXOXOX
joe baptista

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Susan Harris wrote:

> Mr. Baptista - The NANOG list focuses on discussion of backbone network
> engineering and network operational issues. Please keep political
> commentary in private email. Refer to the NANOG list AUP:
>
>       http://www.nanog.org/aup.html
>
> I contacted you two years ago about another AUP violation on your part. If
> you continue to violate the AUP, we'll need to remove your posting
> privileges from the list.
>
> Susan Harris, Ph.D.
> Merit Network/Univ. of Mich.
>
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Joe Baptista wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
> >
> > > Not commenting on some of the fantasies in the article....
> >
> > you should point out any fantasies you find in the article.  i can support
> > my findings with facts.  fiction is a best a condition dictated by
> > bureacrats, and on the internet that end up a comedy of errors.  ipv6 is
> > an end control system at this time in an ipv6 cloud where the ends are
> > under complete end user control.  i love ipv6.  am looking forward to
> > playing with it.
> >
> > >  From what I remember China is pretty is active in IPv6 and from the
> > > APNIC presentations they also have a allocation. Not sure how come to
> > > the conclusions you do....
> >
> > who cares.  China is not aware of the security implications to the
> > homeland.  china is after all a nation ruled by madarines.  the colours of
> > authority change with the wind but the rules of the mandarine class has
> > not ended.  order is critical to the natural balance of chiness society.
> >
> > ipv6 challenges order.  so what will the nat wall of china do now.  i
> > shall of course be investigating.  i think icann goes to china next ;)
> >
> > cheers
> > joe
> >
> > > - kurtis -
> > >
> > > On onsdag, sep 25, 2002, at 11:55 Europe/Stockholm, Joe Baptista wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.circleid.com/articles/2539.asp
> > > >
> > > > and i expect so will freedom fighters in china et. al.  Maybe the
> > > > subject
> > > > of a future interview. and the biggest question of all, will china
> > > > block
> > > > the ipv6 protocol for homeland security reasons?
> > > >
> > > > i look forward to some answers.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Joe Baptista
> > > >
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