Definition of P2P (was Feinstein)

["Bora Akyol" <bora () cisco com>]

Sorry, was it possible to search for a file from > millions of storage
nodes
in IRC?

Bora


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Dennis [mailto:dmd () speakeasy org] 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:04 PM
> To: Bora Akyol
> Cc: 'Martin J. Levy'; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog () merit edu
> Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the 
> Benefits of P2P
>
>
> /dcc send <nick> filename
>
> peer to peer sharing, on irc, since 1991.
>
> Napster simply implemented the IRC protocol's DCC function,
> with a better command set / GUI.
>
>
>
> +-------------------------
> + Dave Dennis
> + Seattle, WA
> + dmd () speakeasy org
> + http://www.dmdennis.com
> +-------------------------
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:
>
> > I think we need to define what P2P is before we can address this.
> >
> > IMHO, P2P started with NAPSTER, yes before that there was 
> WWW, gopher,
> > ftp,
> > files by email, bitnet, x/y/z modem, bbs  (dating myself here),
> > but the large scale bandwidth usage that is seen started 
> with NAPSTER.
> > P2P I would define as distributed file sharing with 
> database like search
> > capabilities. If you define it in this context, the bandwidth
> > characteristics of P2P is a lot closer (but on a higher 
> scale) than the
> > bandwidth characteristics of a traditional web surfer. 
> Hence, ADSL in
> > particular and asymmetric data comm in general hamper P2P.
> >
> >
> > Bora
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin J. Levy [mailto:mahtin () mahtin com]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:13 PM
> > > To: Sean Donelan
> > > Cc: Bora Akyol; nanog () merit edu
> > > Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
> > > Benefits of P2P
> > >
> > >
> > > Sean,
> > >
> > > > There were lots of FTP mirrors around.
> > > > Every Sun workstation could have a Anonymous FTP.  Of
> > > course, the problem
> > > > was every Sun workstation could be an Anonymous FTP :-)
> > >
> > > ... but you forgot to mention that filtering and firewalls
> > > and NAT were not in common use, hence everywhere was
> > > accessible from everywhere.  P2P was all there was.
> > >
> > > Martin