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RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
From: Brian Battle <nanog () confluence com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:18:06 -0400
Alexei Roudnev wrote:
It is not a bug; it is specially designed IE feature. MS always was proud
of
their full automation - install on demand, update automatically, add new software to start at a startup without need
to
be system admin, etc etc... As a result, we have a field full of bugs, pests, pets, spiders, spies and so on... They have _exactly_ what they designed. No one even bored to ask me 'do you want to allow this registry change' , because 'MS believe that their users are lamers so everything
must
be automated from the beginning to the end'...
Most of the lastest versions appear to install themselves using the ByteCode Verifier vulnerability in the Microsoft Virtual Machine. Fully patched systems don't get the stuff installed. I'm sure the authors are working on newer injection methods.... Though the blame might be placed on Microsoft for having a flaw in their code, this wasn't part of any IE feature. You can read more about this exploitable bug (not feature) at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-011.mspx
I do not blame MS, but what about spyware on MAC-s - is it so easy to write and install spyware there?
I don't really want to get into the argument of why people choose microsoft products to attack, but if someone was going to choose a product to attack, from which they were going to try and make the most money/impact off of, do you think they would choose the product with the largest user base? I think that's the case here. It would be a poor business decision not to, and these people are definetly out to make as much money as they can off of these exploits.
This is 100% legal at this point (and even if it is not legal, who bored about it outside of USA? No anyone!).
It really shouldn't be legal. It is someone gaining unauthorized access to computer systems and altering data on those machines. Not to mention that people are profiting from these intrusions. -Brian
Current thread:
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious, (continued)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Paul Vixie (Jul 12)
- Problems with private justice (was Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious) Sean Donelan (Jul 13)
- RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Hannigan, Martin (Jul 12)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 13)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Dan Hollis (Jul 12)
- RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Brian Battle (Jul 12)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Alexei Roudnev (Jul 13)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Petri Helenius (Jul 13)
- RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Michel Py (Jul 13)
- RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Michel Py (Jul 13)
- RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Brian Battle (Jul 13)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Alexei Roudnev (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious John Underhill (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Niels Bakker (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious John Underhill (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious sthaug (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious (let's return to reality) Alexei Roudnev (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious (let's return to reality) Brett (Jul 15)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious (let's return to reality) Curtis Maurand (Jul 15)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious (let's return to reality) Alexei Roudnev (Jul 15)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Alexei Roudnev (Jul 14)
- Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Alexei Roudnev (Jul 14)
