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Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network


From: Stephen Perciballi <routerg () mail net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:20:30 -0400



[Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:20:33AM +0700]
Dr. Jeffrey Race Inscribed these words...



On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:05:41 +0000 (GMT), Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Sure, customer of a customer we got emailtools.com kicked from their
original 'home' now they've moved off (probably several times since 2000)
to another customer. This happens to every ISP, each time they appear we
start the process to disconnect them.

This is too flagrant to let pass without comment.

This "endless loop" situation does NOT happen to every ISP, only to those who
have not emplaced procedures to prevent serial signups of serial abusers.  This is 
trivially easy to do and your firm's failure to do so and to enforce this rule on your
contracting parties definitively proves your management's decision to profit from
spam rather than to stop spam.


I think you may be missing a major point.  UUNET/MCI provides dedicated internet 
services to so many downstreams that it is impossible to stop spammers from 
signing up to those downstreams.  Preventing spammers from signing up for 
UUNET/MCI services is, yes, trivial.  Preventing spammers from signing up on a 
downstream of a downstream of a downstream etc is impossible.


Jeffrey Race




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Stephen (routerg)
irc.dks.ca


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