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Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?)


From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () center osis gov>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:27:47 -0400


On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:09:54PM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
Application layer firewalls have existed for at least 6 years.

Make that 15....

I suspect that claiming to that they existed farther back than 1990 would 
require careful debate about the functionality.

Taking it at its most general: a boundary barrier service that mediated 
particular application exchanges between an "interior" Administrative 
Environment, versus the rest of the public network.  One can reasonably 
argue than any such mediation has a security component to it.

Therefore one could argue that firewall functionality was around at least 
25 years ago -- there were a number of email boundary gateway mediating 
services by then -- and very probably back to 1973.  (I just know that some 
MIT type is going to claim pre-1970, given the generality of the definition 
I offered.)


Dave,

I think the mail gateways back when the various networks were being put
together into an internet had as their functional purpose unifying
disparate networks.  On the contrary, a firewall has as its purpose
partitioning a network that otherwise would not have been.  I don't
think one will hear from MIT, given that.

But Steve and Ches and Dave Presotto at Bell, and Brian Reid and others
at DEC, were doing the partitioning thing in the late 1980's and 1990.
Right?

-- 
Joe Yao
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