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Re: cyber-redundancy
From: sgorman1 () gmu edu
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:56:51 -0500
They need to know what the most resilient provider or combination of providers is to light up a set of locations. A data pool would not give you the data just the answer. I do not think the problem is with the design layout groups. They have the ROWs they have - there is little change in that currently. Nor is there much incentive to volunteer the information if it could possibly result in the loss of a potential customer. Currently there is no optimization of the diversity we have because the information is not available to the market to make an informed decision. As a result we have problems like during 9/11 when nobody realized that all the banks where using the same circuit to connect to the Fed for fund transfers. Simply put the customer needs the information to make the best decision. I don't think anybody would rely on the providers to make the best decision for them. Trust me I'll give you the best price I am just not going to tell you what it is or how that compares to anyone elses prices. Substitute diversity for price and you get the point. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> Date: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:34 pm Subject: cyber-redundancy
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 sgorman1 () gmu edu wrote:Agree that a level of security is required, but the real valueis incustomers like banks knowing where their fiber is, so when theylease> service for a back up provider they know it is not in the same ditch. Does the bank actually need that information? Or does there need to be a way for the two providers to do conflict detection between their design layout groups? You don't need copies of all provider's fiber maps to do conflict detection for a particular group of circuits.
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- Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?, (continued)
- Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? Michael . Dillon (Jan 20)
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- Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? sgorman1 (Jan 19)
- cyber-redundancy Sean Donelan (Jan 19)
- Re: cyber-redundancy sgorman1 (Jan 19)
- Re: cyber-redundancy Martin Hannigan (Jan 19)
- Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? Daniel Golding (Jan 19)
- Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? sgorman1 (Jan 20)
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- Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? Michael . Dillon (Jan 23)
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