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Re: is this like a peering war somehow?
From: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:10:38 +0000
Whatever. No-one's actually trying to do "some packets are more equal than others" here in Europe, except for the mobile people with IMS and such. BT just transferred its access network into a new division with a specific remit to provide open access to all ISPs and alt- tels who want it. It's in the US that the RBOCs and cablesters are actually doing this. On 1/20/06, Per Heldal <heldal () eml cc> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:44:59 +0000, "Paul Vixie" <paul () vix com> said:proving once again that "peering ratios" only matter if the other guy's customers can live without your "assymetric" content, here are two articles i saw today via slashdot. what's interesting to me is whether bellsouth will be sued some time later by some other content provider for de-peering them without also having applied the same rules to google. note, this isn't a bellsouth-specific rant, they just happen to be mentioned in today's story.Carriers trying to charge content-providers for access to their network/customers is just part of a greater picture. The telco industry is fighting to re-establish their dominant position. Traditionally they've been able to pocket (extort) a large portion of the revenue for 3rd-party PSTN services (content services) themselves. Over the last decade they've gained control of the ISP-industry and noe they want to achieve the same level of control of the internet. The most conservative are even suggesting to remove internet-governance from the public domain. The European telecoms industry is openly urging the UN to take control of ICANN's role. In the process they are trying to place the functions of IANA and IETF in their belowed ITU. Their ultimate goal is to eliminate IP as a product, to be able to sell access to sub-protocols as individual services. //per -- Per Heldal http://heldal.eml.cc/
Current thread:
- is this like a peering war somehow? Paul Vixie (Jan 19)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Alexander Harrowell (Jan 19)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? David Ulevitch (Jan 19)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Sean Donelan (Jan 19)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Daniel Golding (Jan 19)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Edward B. DREGER (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? James (Jan 21)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Edward B. DREGER (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Per Heldal (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Alexander Harrowell (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Michael . Dillon (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Peter Corlett (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Alexander Harrowell (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Petri Helenius (Jan 22)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 22)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Todd Vierling (Jan 23)
- qos on access (Re: is this like a peering war somehow?) Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 23)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Alexander Harrowell (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Paul Vixie (Jan 23)
