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Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's?
From: George William Herbert <gherbert () retro com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:28:34 -0700
I've always wondered who died or was injured and caused the EPO to come in to existence. There have been lots of "EPO caused downtime" stories, but does anyone on the NANOG list even have one single "Thank God for the EPO" story? I'll feel better about the general state of the world if I know that the EPO actually has a real valid use that has been ACTUALLY PROVEN IN PRACTICE rather than just in someone's mind. -Jerry <----Is so anti EPO, he has no remote EPO buttons, and even has the irrational fear about the jumper on the "EPO terminal strip" inside his UPSes coming undone.
A friend of mine is a volunteer firefighter (and ex-ISP CEO, used to be on the list). I'm not sure that he'd voluntarily enter a burning datacenter to put it out if there wasn't an EPO. Firefighters won't use water on live electrical fires. If your response plan to a fire in the datacenter is "the building burns down and hope nobody's inside it still" then you're set. I've seen someone electrocuted and frozen on the wire in a non-datacenter setting; we flipped the building breaker, which was further than an EPO would have been. It wasn't through his chest, and was only 110 V, so it probably didn't make a difference that it took a minute to turn it off instead of 10 seconds. There were no severe burns, etc. I've seen equipment catch on fire in a datacenter. If I hadn't been able to cut off the power locally, the EPO was the last line of defense... People I know have hit the EPO when sprinklers discharged in the datacenter. If you're lucky these won't happen to you. But that's not why safety rules are put in place. Unluck happens. -george william herbert gherbert () retro com
Current thread:
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's?, (continued)
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? George William Herbert (Jul 25)
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Barry Shein (Jul 26)
- RE: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Randy Epstein (Jul 26)
- RE: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Barry Shein (Jul 26)
- RE: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Randy Epstein (Jul 26)
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Daryl Jurbala (Jul 27)
- RE: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Barry Shein (Jul 27)
- RE: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Tim Donahue (Jul 27)
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? Barry Shein (Jul 26)
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? George William Herbert (Jul 25)
- Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's? David Lesher (Jul 25)
