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Re: Diversity - was: Fiber cut in SF area


From: joel.mercado () verizon net
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:56:01 +0000

Hopefully none of these customers had service and protect ckts that went down... I would be pissed as a ceo if that 
happen to my company.  Hopefully level3's new service offering is 100@percent redundant as stated


The new service offerings include: - Protected Wavelengths: Level 3 now provides automatic protection-switching to a 
dedicated diversely routed wavelength in the event of a network failure. The protection switch, fully automated and 
managed by Level 3, happens at switching speeds approaching SONET restoration times. The single interface to the 
customer requires no additional capital cost for customer optical ports, and the diverse restoration path is fixed and 
fully known to the customer. These features allow customers to achieve fast restoration with predictable performance in 
their network without adding significant cost and routing complexity. -
------Original Message------
From: Wallace Keith
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Diversity - was: Fiber cut in SF area
Sent: Apr 14, 2009 7:06 PM


-----Original Message-----
From: Roy [mailto:r.engehausen () gmail com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:43 PM
To: Gino Villarini
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area

Gino Villarini wrote:
Here in my area most of business outfits that require maximum
availability of Internet or WAN conenctions have implemented dual
connections from dual providers, most with a fiber/copper main and a
fixed wireless backup.  This trend goes from banks to Mcdonalds  


Gino A. Villarini
gav () aeronetpr com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

  
A large company in the affected area had a T3 supplied by AT&T and a
wireless link to another ISP that was fed by two metro-ethernet links
by
companies other than AT&T.

All three uplinks were lost.  So much for having backups,

This just goes to emphasize that when creating a diversity or backup
scenario, you need to get full disclosure from Provider B that they do
not use Provider A's facilities, including shared sheath, duct, etc in
any way. Also, there is the need to avoid the same telco buildings,
regen huts, etc.  and in some cases, entire cities. Any telecom/datacom
manager who has done their homework should be able to map out their
paths back to critical diverse infrastructure.

-Keith








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