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Re: ISP customer assignments
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:35:09 -0400
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:13:37 CDT, Dan White said:
a publicly routeable stateless auto configured address is no less secure than a publicly routeable address assigned by DHCP. Security is, and should be, handled by other means.
The problem is user tracking and privacy.
RFC4941's problem statement:
Addresses generated using stateless address autoconfiguration
[ADDRCONF] contain an embedded interface identifier, which remains
constant over time. Anytime a fixed identifier is used in multiple
contexts, it becomes possible to correlate seemingly unrelated
activity using this identifier.
The correlation can be performed by
o An attacker who is in the path between the node in question and
the peer(s) to which it is communicating, and who can view the
IPv6 addresses present in the datagrams.
o An attacker who can access the communication logs of the peers
with which the node has communicated.
Since the identifier is embedded within the IPv6 address, which is a
fundamental requirement of communication, it cannot be easily hidden.
This document proposes a solution to this issue by generating
interface identifiers that vary over time.
Note that an attacker, who is on path, may be able to perform
significant correlation based on
o The payload contents of the packets on the wire
o The characteristics of the packets such as packet size and timing
Use of temporary addresses will not prevent such payload-based
correlation.
(end quote)
Or phrased differently - if I DCHP my laptop in a Starbuck's, on Comcast, at
work, at a hotel, and a few other places, you'll get a whole raft of answers
which will be very hard to cross-corrolate. But if all those places did
IPv6 autoconfig, the correlation would be easy, because my address would
always end in 215:c5ff:fec8:334e - and no other users should have those
last 64 bits.
Amazingly enough, some people think making it too easy to Big-Brother you
is a security issue...
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- Re: ISP customer assignments, (continued)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Joe Greco (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Joel Jaeggli (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Carsten Bormann (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Seth Mattinen (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments William Herrin (Oct 05)
- RE: ISP customer assignments Brian Johnson (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Chuck Anderson (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments William Herrin (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Ricky Beam (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Ricky Beam (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 06)
- RE: ISP customer assignments Brian Johnson (Oct 05)
- RE: ISP customer assignments TJ (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 05)
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- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 06)
- Re: ISP customer assignments TJ (Oct 06)
- Re: ISP customer assignments James Hess (Oct 06)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Michael Dillon (Oct 08)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Steven Bellovin (Oct 05)
