RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients

["Lee Howard" <lee () asgard org>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: Peter Beckman
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted
clients
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman () angryox com> wrote:
>
> >  service being cut off.  However it is ignorance and lack of maintenance
> >  that makes viruses and botnets so prevelant that it may just be time to
> >  bite the bullet and force users to learn how to maintain their
machines.
> because this works so well with:
>
> 1) cars
> 2) home-security
> 3) personal security wandering around cities/towns
>
> I note that I'm not particularly against any of the proposal, just the
> 'people need a drivers license to get on the interwebz'... it's been
> tried many times before, always without success.

I'm trying to understand your analogy, but it's hidden in the sarcasm.
Your assertion is that education (and you've decided to include licensing, 
for some reason) of drivers and the rest is ineffective?   You're not 
opposed to user education, you just believe it's useless because it will 
only reduce, not eliminate, badness?

Lee